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Old 08-15-2006, 07:15 PM   #1
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Question 4-up printing in OpenOffice?


Does OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 writer support 4 up printing?

Obviously I can print to a PS file and then mpage with -t -l -4 but how can I do this from regular apps? I have an HP PSC 2175v so perhaps their driver does not support Linux well. Do I need to search for an OpenSource driver? Or does Writer support 2-up, 4-up, 8-up?

Some things I've tried:
  • <openoffice.org>/program/spadmin
  • http://localhost:631/ - monkeyed with printer settings
  • 25% instead of 100%. ignored
  • System Settings->Printers (system-config-printer)

Thanks,
TimJowers
 
Old 08-16-2006, 04:20 AM   #2
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Using cups and the kde printer config tool, I as able to set up two and four-up printing configurations. These "virtual printers" are available from just about every application I use. I don't know how to set up anything like that outside of kde though.
 
Old 08-16-2006, 04:48 PM   #3
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sample?

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Originally Posted by David the H.
Using cups and the kde printer config tool, I as able to set up two and four-up printing configurations. These "virtual printers" are available from just about every application I use. I don't know how to set up anything like that outside of kde though.
Hi David the H.,

Could you give me a sample of the lines added to PPD or direct me to software for editing this file graphically? The PPD I downloaded from linuxprinting.org has nothing about n-up printing. I also installed the HPLIP drvier instead of HPIJS but that did not help.

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Old 08-17-2006, 12:07 PM   #4
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Thumbs up got it -> Page preview->print options in OO

Finally solved the mystery of 4-up printing in Openoffice.org Writer. The feature is supported within Writer. HP offers no printer driver and so this feature must be finegeled in other ways.


Thanks,

I tried a new printer and clicked the Queue Options tab and added number-up=4. No joy. But found out one can do it within OpenOffice.org Writer:
1. File-Page Preview
2. "Print Options" icon with hand near "Close preview" on toolbar.
3. Select 2 rows and 2 columns.
4. Print with next button to left ("Print page view".

My conclusion is Linux, OpenOffice, and others have good work-arounds for deficient HP printer drivers. HP is truly ignoring the Linux market. Not sure why. The only 'doze left in our business is a laptop which is dual boot. We need to get the delorme GPS working in Linux and then will be 'doze-free!

And next time I'll first check if the printer has a Linux driver before I buy it! The OpenSource drviers are good but a company the size of HP really has no excuse.

Best wishes,
TimJowers
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In article <mailman.90.1155823051.5415.printing-user-hp@lists.freestandards.org>, Hin-Tak Leung <hintak_leung@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>
> Apparently the cups's way is "lpr -o number-up=2 filename",
> and you can have default options like number-up in
> /etc/cups/lpoptions or per user in ~/.cups/lpoptions .
> So basically you just have multiple spooler queues to the same
> printer, with different options.
>
> --- TimJowers <nobody@example.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <mailman.80.1155761762.5415.printing-user-hp@lists.freestandards.org>,
> > Hin-Tak
> > Leung <hintak_leung@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> > >
> > > This functionality is already provided by cups. In linux, this
> > > functionality is part of the spooler, not the driver (hpijs, ghostscript)
> > > nor the application (firefox, ghostview, OOo). For non-cups aware
> > > applications, e.g. xpdf, acrobat reader, firefox in non-cups mode, etc,
> > > you can replace/alias lpr to "psnup -<n> | lpr" with the utility psnup,
> > > *for any printer and any application*. The traditional unix way of doing it
> >
> > > is to define more than one logical spooler queues for different finish
> > > (n-up, duplex, etc) to the same physical printer.
> >
> > Could you provide me a little more insight into how to "define more than
> > one
> > logical spooler". This does not seem to be documented on LinuxPrinting.org.
> > I'm
> > still trying to get my head around what is happening.
> >
> > The command:
> > groff -Tps -ms INSTALL | psbook | psnup -2 | lpr
> > Does in fact print 2-up. Yay!
> >
> > But very few of my apps allow me to specify the printing command. Even
> > Firefox does not. XPDF does and replacing "lpr" with "psnup -4 | lpr" works.
> > Yay!
> >
> > I replaced hpijs driver with hplip and now 2-up and 4-up are options for
> > the
> > printer when I try to print from Firefox. Yay!
> >
> > XEmacs File->Print sends the file straight to the printer. How would I make
> >
> > it print 4-up?
> >
> > GEdit File->Print has a print dialog but no 4-up option. How would I make
> > it
> > print 4-up? (Same for OpenOffice.org Writer). This is my main
> > question/problem.
> >
> > So, at least three different ways of printing are being used. The most
> > important question is how to get OpenOffice to do n-up printing. I've
> > searched
> > other support forums but this is still a mystery.
> >
> > Also, the CUPS Quickstart recommends the following as a basic command but
> > it
> > fails on my CentOS 4.2 (like RHEL 4) distribution.
> > [root@serviza koffice-1.5.2]# lp -d INSTALL -o PageSize=Letter /etc/motd
> > lp: unable to print file: client-error-bad-request
> >
> > Thanks for any insights,
> > TimJowers
> >
> > >
> > > People from windows world tend not to have any idea about the spooler
> > > as separated from the driver...
> > >
> > > Phil Howard wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 06:29:04PM +0200, Alexander Gran wrote:
> > > >
> > > > | Yep, but only with the KDE Printing System (e.g. kghostview etc) or
> > with
> > Adobe
> > > > | Acrobat. No Success with OOo so far
> > > > | regards
> > > >
> > > > I suppose someone could get ambitious and hack Ghostscript to convert
> > > > pages into 2-up, 4-up, etc, pages. IWSTM that would be a better place
> > > > to put such a feature rather than in apps like OOo, Firefox, etc. Then
> > > > just configure some "virtual" target printers for the 2-up, 4-up, etc.
> > > > Then any app that prints could go that way. And you could make one of
> > > > them be the default.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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