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Old 01-19-2012, 10:41 AM   #16
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What about something like this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883157163

or this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883157162
 
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:37 AM   #17
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Could / would do it too (by my opinion),
but maybe someone could tell more about these systems.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 12:25 PM   #18
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When it comes to purchasing hardware, the two major goals I have:

1. Cost. Need to keep it reasonable <$500

2. Noise. It will be in my bedroom, so I don't think a rackmount unit will be appropriate.

The only thing I will be using the box for is to do the tutorials and learn more about RHEL 6.
If, after I get more familiar with RHEL, I find I need/want a more robust box, I can take it from there.
I will be very happy with a little desktop for now that is under $500 if it will work.
This weekend, I will have time to go shopping locally to a couple places that sell bare-bones boxes.
Last night I burned a DVD of the CentOS iso that Mike recommended and I will go shopping armed with it.

And if anyone has anything to add regarding those little HP boxes from NewEgg, please chime in. I am all ears
 
Old 01-20-2012, 02:19 PM   #19
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I think any CPU today comes with "hardware assisted virtualization" capability, even Celerons.
The CPUs may but I've run across at least one HP workstation that didn't allow for full virtualization in the the BIOS even though the CPUs themselves have the capability. I'm assuming HP did that to encourage people to spend more on a "server".
 
Old 01-23-2012, 10:22 AM   #20
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Which Version?

Ok,

I found a box that should work. At the store, I booted it with the CentOS Live DVD and confirmed that the /proc/cpuinfo file had a "svm" flag (AMD).

Now for the correct software, I would hope to think the "Workstation" ($179) version of RHEL6 would be sufficient for all the labs in Mr. Jang's book?

https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/

Or do I need to get at a minimum, the "2-sockets with 1 virtual guest" for $349?

https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/

I hope to be "off to the races" in the next day or so. Just don't want to buy the wrong software.

Thanks!
 
Old 01-23-2012, 10:47 AM   #21
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Hi,

I'm sorry, but why would you buy RHEL 6 (for testing at home) if you can get 30-day evaluation or even free server OS like CentOS or Scientific Linux which are based on RHEL6 (I can't remember on which page exactly, but from the book mcgraw Hill RHCSA/RHCE Red Hat Linux Certification Study Guide).

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Old 01-23-2012, 11:29 AM   #22
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Hi,

I'm sorry, but why would you buy RHEL 6 (for testing at home) if you can get 30-day evaluation or even free server OS like CentOS or Scientific Linux which are based on RHEL6 (I can't remember on which page exactly, but from the book mcgraw Hill RHCSA/RHCE Red Hat Linux Certification Study Guide).
I am all ears to a free version that will work. However, I will need significantly longer than 30 days to ramp up and absorb all the information, so I am not interested in any evaluation versions.

CentOS is an Enterprise-class Linux Distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by a prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor. CentOS conforms fully with the upstream vendors redistribution policy and aims to be 100% binary compatible. (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork.) CentOS is free.

Looks like a better choice.

Thanks for pointing this out lithos!

Question is, will I be able to do everything I need to do for the labs with it? If so, I will load it tonight.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 12:51 PM   #23
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Well...just discussed this with my boss and I found out that we were set up with a subscription to download RHEL 6. so I do not have to pay for it.

That brings me back to my original question.

Do I need the Server version? or will the workstation one work just as well.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 02:16 PM   #24
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Don't take my word for it, but I think it's the same thing ... just a matter of licensing and support.

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Old 01-23-2012, 02:28 PM   #25
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Great, so the subscription is currently solved

and the big ? is what to use:
rh desktop
RHEL server

and the difference I see is support for Virtual guests in server edition.

I think I saw the RHCE 'requires' some KVM installation (2 guest 'workstations' for testing)
so the choice could be server.
Anyway the server is meant to install on servers, without any desktop software (i think OpenOffice etc.)
which I don't see listed here

Probably you could do it with workstation too, but will need an access to server channel to install it.
I don't know, I'm not a RHEL subscriber nor 'user' (maybe I should be :-)

Have you maybe used their Support channel and call them and ask ? It's why it is there and you're paying for. I would try ...

Regards

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Old 01-23-2012, 02:40 PM   #26
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go with the server. But why not try CentOS or SL, at least for KVM host. Most of the people use one or the other to prepare for RH certs.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 02:50 PM   #27
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go with the server. But why not try CentOS or SL, at least for KVM host. Most of the people use one or the other to prepare for RH certs.
'cause I can get RHEL 6 for free. May as well dance with the one that brought you .
 
Old 01-23-2012, 03:19 PM   #28
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Dear Bob,

Thanks for highlighting your question by PM.

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Now for the correct software, I would hope to think the "Workstation" ($179) version of RHEL6 would be sufficient for all the labs in Mr. Jang's book?

https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/

Or do I need to get at a minimum, the "2-sockets with 1 virtual guest" for $349?

https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/
Last I checked, RHEL 6 Workstation had all of the same service packages are RHEL 6 Server.

BUT that was about 9 months ago, on version 6.0.

I gather there have been some minor changes to the subscriptions since then, so I can't answer your question with certainty. One of these days when I get a bit more time, I'll run the diff command on both package lists for version 6.2.
 
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:26 PM   #29
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Dear Bob,

Thanks for highlighting your question by PM.



Last I checked, RHEL 6 Workstation had all of the same service packages are RHEL 6 Server.

BUT that was about 9 months ago, on version 6.0.

I gather there have been some minor changes to the subscriptions since then, so I can't answer your question with certainty. One of these days when I get a bit more time, I'll run the diff command on both package lists for version 6.2.
Good enough for me.

Since I have a smaller desktop box, I will go with Workstation since it has the Desktop apps as well.

Thanks!

(actually burning both images just in case)
 
Old 01-23-2012, 05:38 PM   #30
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Hi,
this is not related to your thread, but I went to RH Assessment Skills and found out that I miserably know linux (in fact I know it just how much I needed) without really getting some books on how-to and training.
I attached my result, which I apologize you, just for fun.

good luck to you,
my best regards.
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