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Old 08-20-2013, 04:12 AM   #1
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RHCE failed 1st attempt need help!!!


Hi all,
This is a first thread for me.
I just took RHCE but i lost it because of something wrong but until now i even don't know. It seems to be i done everything so far except one service is not running cauz of firewall issue.
For any one who passed the RHCE .
Could you please give me some advices what I need to do to figure out what i did wrong in the test to make me fail ? What should i take an actions to prepare for the 2nd try ? What is your strategy to do the tasks in the real test ? I did the lab for the test every day with 3 VM machines and build every service by myself . Before the test i am very confident because i read all the books related to RHCE and hand on every service configuration and further. However after taking the test and got result i am so frustrating about the test resulte because i don't know what i am wrong . what i am supposed to do right ?
If possible for everyone who already cleared RHCE and have time please add me with skype: kratos.william. I am so disappointed about this test. I must to figure out what i did wrong before trying it next time as you know other wise i will fail one more time.
I am really need your help and discussion.
Thank you so much!
-K-

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Old 08-21-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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Hi all,
I just took RHCE but i lost it because of something wrong but until now i even don't know. It seems to be i done everything so far except one service is not running cauz of firewall issue. For any one who passed the RHCE .
Could you please give me some advices what I need to do to figure out what i did wrong in the test to make me fail? What should i take an actions to prepare for the 2nd try? What is your strategy to do the tasks in the real test? I did the lab for the test every day with 3 VM machines and build every service by myself . Before the test i am very confident because i read all the books related to RHCE and hand on every service configuration and further. However after taking the test and got result i am so frustrating about the test resulte because i don't know what i am wrong . what i am supposed to do right ?
The best advice anyone can give you is to learn the subject FIRST. As you said, you "did the lab"...what ELSE did you do? What else did you read/study?? If you did reald ALL the books related to RHCE, and knew EVERY service configuration and further, the test would have been very easy. There are no guarantees anyone can give you that you'll pass it if you do XXX/YYY. Learn the subject first. You obviously had trouble with firewalls/selinux...isn't it obvious that you should probably study THAT, since you know you had trouble with it?
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If possible for everyone who already cleared RHCE and have time please add me with skype I am so disappointed about this test. I must to figure out what i did wrong before trying it next time as you know other wise i will fail one more time
We are not going to add you on skype...this isn't the place to come for free, personalized one-on-one RHCE learning courses. And to add to that, anyone who DID take/pass the RHCE, is not allowed to discuss the test.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 01:16 PM   #3
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The best advice anyone can give you is to learn the subject FIRST. As you said, you "did the lab"...what ELSE did you do? What else did you read/study?? If you did reald ALL the books related to RHCE, and knew EVERY service configuration and further, the test would have been very easy. There are no guarantees anyone can give you that you'll pass it if you do XXX/YYY. Learn the subject first. You obviously had trouble with firewalls/selinux...isn't it obvious that you should probably study THAT, since you know you had trouble with it?

We are not going to add you on skype...this isn't the place to come for free, personalized one-on-one RHCE learning courses. And to add to that, anyone who DID take/pass the RHCE, is not allowed to discuss the test.
ha ha yep that's why there are so many people lost so much money for the company ...while everywhere every time every people they met they always say "Linux live free or die" I am just joking
thanks

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Old 08-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #4
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ha ha yep that's why there are so many people lost so much money for the company ...while everywhere every time every people they met they always say "Linux live free or die" I am just joking
thanks
If people taking the test actually knew the subject first, rather than taking practice dumps and depending on RHCE study guides, there would be far less people failing. Learning is a long process.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 01:37 PM   #5
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If people taking the test actually knew the subject first, rather than taking practice dumps and depending on RHCE study guides, there would be far less people failing. Learning is a long process.
It is almost correct. Why ?
They failed doesn't mean they don't have knowledge. They failed because the question is vague. When it is vague they just want to clear the question ?
Is it fair enough ? For me I didn't do anything if i don't know in theory how it works. Or at least reading topic covers it .
I have a friend he can read and remember one text book a day so i guest his learning process is shorter than me...

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Old 08-23-2013, 02:31 AM   #6
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Yes that would be a violation of the terms of agreement.

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Old 08-23-2013, 03:35 AM   #7
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It is almost correct. Why ?
They failed doesn't mean they don't have knowledge. They failed because the question is vague. When it is vague they just want to clear the question ?
Is it fair enough ? For me I didn't do anything if i don't know in theory how it works. Or at least reading topic covers it .
I have a friend he can read and remember one text book a day so i guest his learning process is shorter than me...

whoever failed RHCE may have some knowledge but not of basics on linux for sure or a poor time management.. to clear the exam (a bitter truth), because its not all about you study some books on how to crack RHCE and you can do it, unless you practice and understand how the stuff works, why & when it is needed you cant say you have knowledge on it.. no matter whatever subject it is.

As TB0ne has already said "know the subject first" these couple of words meant everything one needs to conquer a subject, an exam or anything related..

Learning is a long long journey ..it never ends unless you decide not to learn anymore but when you do .. you are building a cage around yourself.

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Old 08-23-2013, 06:28 AM   #8
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whoever failed RHCE may have some knowledge but not of basics on linux for sure or a poor time management.. to clear the exam (a bitter truth), because its not all about you study some books on how to crack RHCE and you can do it, unless you practice and understand how the stuff works, why & when it is needed you cant say you have knowledge on it.. no matter whatever subject it is.

As TB0ne has already said "know the subject first" these couple of words meant everything one needs to conquer a subject, an exam or anything related..

Learning is a long long journey ..it never ends unless you decide not to learn anymore but when you do .. you are building a cage around yourself.
Thanks for your all advices. To start with it i am re-building and make hands dirty with every service for subject in the book. Interesting i learn a lot of new thing that i am not aware when i took the exam 1st time At least i know that where i am wrong after reading the subject one more time.
First i have question for samba service :
I tried to build samba service for the network 192.168.114.0 to share /shared folder. I have no problem to use it in my local 192.168.114.0 network. But I also have want to use samba service in different network 172.24.5.0/24.
when i was at 172.24.5.6 computer:
[root@BT ~]# smbclient -L //serverx.example.com
Enter root's password:
protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[root@BT ~]# smbclient -L serverx.example.com
Enter root's password:
session request to SERVERX.EXAMPLE. failed (Not listening for calling name)
protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[root@BT ~]# smbclient //serverx.example.com/common -U kratos
Enter kratos's password:
session request to SERVERX.EXAMPLE. failed (Not listening for calling name)
protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
Check the samba log on the server I saw it
[2013/08/23 04:13:32.099590, 0] lib/access.c:338(allow_access)
Denied connection from 172.24.5.6 (172.24.5.6)
I am for sure that open port for samba in fw and setup correct selinux and booleans for it.
The fact that we can connect and use samba service in 192.168.114.0 network.
/etc/samba/smb.conf
[shared]
path = /shared
read list = kratos
hosts allow = 172.24.5.0/255.255.255.0 192.168.114.0/255.255.255.0
On the 192.168.114.128 computer:
[kratos@station1 ~]$ smbclient //serverx.example.com/common -U kratos
Enter kratos's password:
Domain=[LLC] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.6.9-151.el6]
smb: \> ls
. D 0 Thu May 23 14:43:01 2013
.. DR 0 Thu Aug 15 11:25:22 2013
test 0 Thu May 23 14:43:01 2013

37380 blocks of size 4194304. 28979 blocks available
But we cannot use samba in different local network(172.24.5.0).
So my question is what is wrong that i can not use samba in different network ? What should i do to fix it ?
Thanks,

Last edited by kratos.william; 08-23-2013 at 06:32 AM.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 08:32 AM   #9
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One of the things that these tests are designed is to toss you into the water, over your head, to see if you can actually swim. Because, at the end of the day, that is what a CE has to be able to do, under conditions of considerable pressure. I wish that more people who took these things actually failed in their first attempt, because usually what happens is that they walk out with a piece of paper and a false sense of know-it-all.

Most likely what happened was that you got flustered, found yourself "caught off-base," and didn't know what to do in order to get back on. The test should have thrown a bunch of details at you, some relevant but most not, and then used a strict time-limit to substitute for the boss breathing down your neck in your first (and last ... ) day on the job.

Now, go back and very systematically analyze the experience. Consider, not merely what sort of technical competencies you needed (most of which you probably had acquired), but how the overall scenario was constructed. What working conditions did it put you into, in which you were then expected to pull the rabbit out of the hat on cue?

Yeah, it sux to find yourself "egg-faced" on anything. But it sux a lot more to be blindsided and discredited in an actual on-the-job situation, especially when "given time" you could have solved the problem but "time" is the one thing you didn't have. (And you never do.)

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Old 08-23-2013, 08:41 AM   #10
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Thanks for your all advices. To start with it i am re-building and make hands dirty with every service for subject in the book. Interesting i learn a lot of new thing that i am not aware when i took the exam 1st time At least i know that where i am wrong after reading the subject one more time.
..which is why learning the subject first is a good idea.
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First i have question for samba service :

But we cannot use samba in different local network(172.24.5.0).
So my question is what is wrong that i can not use samba in different network ? What should i do to fix it ?
Please read the LQ Rules, and open a new thread for a new question. A hint would be looking at your network routing information, and your firewall/selinux.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 02:25 PM   #11
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..which is why learning the subject first is a good idea.

Please read the LQ Rules, and open a new thread for a new question. A hint would be looking at your network routing information, and your firewall/selinux.
The issue is from smb.conf file not an issue with network/fw/selinux.
Thanks,
 
Old 08-24-2013, 12:45 AM   #12
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Thats great if you figured it out but if this is still an issue ... perhaps quoting the lines above you forgot to read for starting a new thread for this..

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