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Old 03-20-2012, 02:59 PM   #16
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Open Mind You are True....all are Cheater....Same is my Case....Learned Own-self For book Asked Rs 4500....the Center had for own Student Question Pre Given and Practice for 1 Month with Soln...Just in main Exam Write the by-heard Question.../these are Show OFF Exam...everything is linked...

Teach them a Lesson..they are Succors...They Said after book Training From 10AM to 5PM but Nill before Exam 5 - 7 Min Fast Track...Pressurizing..Sucking money

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Old 03-31-2012, 10:43 AM   #17
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After a long persuit with Red Hat India trainig, I got the below answer. This answers all my questions. I'm curious to know if this policy is only in India or it's the same in your country. Please help me understand.

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For clarity sake, I would like to reiterate that no person is allowed to
attempt a Red Hat exam unless the person has attended an official training
at a Red Hat Certified Training Partner and is in receipt of Red Hat's
official courseware. the RHCTP is free to decide the price of the training
and courseware. Only the exam price is regulated by Red Hat.
Thanks for your time and support!
 
Old 03-31-2012, 12:07 PM   #18
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Like Joy1982 said. RH Training Partners are abusing the above mentioned policy by RH. I'm sure Red Hat by now know what's happening and how worse it can get.

Why RH has adopted this kind of policy which has the greatest potential for the Partners to kill students? RH choose this business model for some benefit but I still feel Red Hat is not doing fair in Training front.

It is a great company it changed the perspective of Open Source on the face of the earth and now it is going to break the 1 billion barrier, I so very happy that RH is doing great and I'm proud of it too.
I have always done every possible bit to Open Source in general and Red Hat. I have promoted people to use Red Hat, I have helped at least a 25 small office to move from Widows to RH, I have trained students for free to finish RHCE but now I have to take-up the exam for employment obligations and I found this shocking news...

I have decided not to take RHCE under these norms though I loose my job. I still love RH as a company, it's products, open spirit and all of it except for their stupid training policy. If I really need a certification probably I will do LPI though it's not as popular as RH, I can live with it.

May be this event will change my career path, just can't compromise on freedom. Thanks to RH Training (India).
 
Old 05-03-2012, 10:19 AM   #19
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Dear OpenMind,

This might be old thread now, but if you are still following, I'm also going through the same ordeal.
Kindly check my post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...n-exam-943104/
 
Old 06-02-2012, 12:02 AM   #20
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Smile RHCE

Well it's true... I have passed RHCE exam on 29-5-12 ...with 100% marks :-)..hehehe.. I also have to buy 3 books worth Rs 4500 to appear for the exam..Because there are forms at the end of book which you need to fill up and submit in exam hall... however I don't mind it because Red hat books are excellent compact collection of knowledge... And if you are ready to pay 20000 for exam ..then I don't think another 4500 would be much of an issue..However this is my personal book..Because I loved that book...It's kind of workbook...I found many many things there which were new to me...
Apart from this you can always trust red hat contents...isn't it :-) Moreover redhat provides you OS, source code, Unlimited binaries packages for free... What else should on expect!! Microsoft doesn't provide you source code and OS for free...Then no point in complaining..Apart from this even if red hat is doing business with this then I fully support this...because to grow redhat needs to grow financially as well... And all open source fans would like redhat to grow..
 
Old 06-02-2012, 06:33 AM   #21
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what do you mean by providing source code, OS and Unlimtied binaries packages ?, I know they'll provide a DVD of RHEL after passing the exam. and Linux is Free, and also i don't think that they provide you any SOURCE CODE for proprietaries packages .. second.. Are they providing RHN Subscription for update, I don't think they're providing ??
 
Old 06-02-2012, 08:01 AM   #22
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Well it's true... I have passed RHCE exam on 29-5-12 ...with 100% marks :-)..hehehe.. I also have to buy 3 books worth Rs 4500 to appear for the exam..Because there are forms at the end of book which you need to fill up and submit in exam hall... however I don't mind it because Red hat books are excellent compact collection of knowledge... And if you are ready to pay 20000 for exam ..then I don't think another 4500 would be much of an issue..However this is my personal book..Because I loved that book...It's kind of workbook...I found many many things there which were new to me...
Apart from this you can always trust red hat contents...isn't it :-) Moreover redhat provides you OS, source code, Unlimited binaries packages for free... What else should on expect!! Microsoft doesn't provide you source code and OS for free...Then no point in complaining..Apart from this even if red hat is doing business with this then I fully support this...because to grow redhat needs to grow financially as well... And all open source fans would like redhat to grow..
Well first of all congratulations as you cleared your RHCE
I think you should read what the conversation is all about. The thing is if I have learned linux on my own and I want to appear for the examination then why should I pay Rs 4500 extra for some vouchers or coupons pasted at the end of the book, this means red hat wants us to purchase the book indirectly, which is not the correct way to deal with students.
 
Old 06-03-2012, 08:46 AM   #23
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Sorry if I meant otherwise..but tht was my personal opinion whch i shared...but yes red hat do provide source code.. I have those...and about pckages..yes there r lists 4 which subscription is required..but in my 3 years of datacenter experience...we hardly have to purchase packages..so much is provided... bt yes redhat support is required..about books..it's abt individuals opinion..my group doesn't mind it..while many do...agree tht..it's part of their business.
 
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Sorry if I meant otherwise..but tht was my personal opinion whch i shared...but yes red hat do provide source code.. I have those...and about pckages..yes there r lists 4 which subscription is required..but in my 3 years of datacenter experience...we hardly have to purchase packages..so much is provided... bt yes redhat support is required..about books..it's abt individuals opinion..my group doesn't mind it..while many do...agree tht..it's part of their business.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:58 PM   #25
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exactly, they'll provide updates, support only if you're purchasing it with red hat, not on passing on RHEL Certification. that is different part, purchasing a subscription and support from Redhat, Cost a lot and not including in Certification and books cost.
 
Old 01-29-2013, 07:10 AM   #26
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buying RHCSA/RHCE is optional

to give RHCSA/RHCE exams, you do not need to buy their books. you can give the exams without buying the books but you have to pay more for the exam. people buy books because they get coupons along with the books which allows you to give the exams at discounted rate.

plus these books are very useful when you study at RED HAT TRAINING Center. every training partner is required to setup server according to REDHAT's instructions. these books contains tasks you can performs using their server thus helping us.
 
Old 01-29-2013, 07:53 AM   #27
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At the risk of stating the very obvious, all certification programs are commercial products ... and very lucrative ones, at that.

You've persuaded yourself that "a certification" is Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket. Therefore, they are going to sell one to you, along with all the wrapping they can dream up to go with it. Everybody gets a slice of your pie.

Mind you, there's nothing illegitimate or even under-handed about this: it's commerce, nothing more.

And what do you get? Well, whatever it is that you've already convinced yourself you'll get. Having spent all that time and money, you'd better resolve to be happy. Buyer's Remorse is a terrible thing.
 
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At the risk of stating the very obvious, all certification programs are commercial products ... and very lucrative ones, at that.

You've persuaded yourself that "a certification" is Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket. Therefore, they are going to sell one to you, along with all the wrapping they can dream up to go with it. Everybody gets a slice of your pie.

Mind you, there's nothing illegitimate or even under-handed about this: it's commerce, nothing more.

And what do you get? Well, whatever it is that you've already convinced yourself you'll get. Having spent all that time and money, you'd better resolve to be happy. Buyer's Remorse is a terrible thing.
Oh totally, some of the RHCA level courses I've done really are very sales orientated, barely even trying to disguise their push of the newest and greatest products
 
Old 01-30-2013, 07:25 AM   #29
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Hi All,

Yes its Sad but True!

RedHat is forcing to by the RedHat books if you wish to write the exams. (In India, not sure about other places)

The examiner will stamp your book before entering the exam hall. If you dont have you will not be allowed to sit for the exam.

Only Upgrade are allowed without book. I saw this personally when i upgraded/appeared for RHEL6 certification

-Kaustubh
 
Old 02-11-2013, 10:23 AM   #30
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This whole issue seems to be India specific. And I don't think it's RedHat's fault, but rather a local test center policy.

On the other hand, I'd love to buy official RedHat course workbooks at my test center, but they are not selling any .

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