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freetnt 10-17-2011 05:39 AM

redhat certification - same questions the hole release?
 
Hi,

I read some articles about rh5 certs on the past having the same question all the time. That means if you didn't pass first time , you get same questions 2nd time, etc ...

Can anybody confirm that, anybody who took the test 2nd time or 3th time? Is that the case with rh6 too?

I saw a post on wikileaks, with a braindump from last exam(rh5) and readhat getting nervous and trying to remove that post ...

druuna 10-17-2011 05:52 AM

Hi,

When someone takes a Red Hat exam s/he has to sign a non-disclosure agreement that states, among other things, that you can not share material, knowledge, or information about those exams. As I understand, Red Hat is very strict in this policy!

Knowing Linuxquestions policies, I don't think you'll get an answer to your questions here at LQ.

Just study the material and make sure you pass the first time :D

druuna 10-17-2011 07:02 AM

Hi again,
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Originally Posted by freetnt (Post 4500432)
this has nothing to do with questions from rh exam or any other policy. was a fair question regarding why readhat was trying so hard to take those questions down from wikileaks webpage...

Ok, I'll rephrase my original reply:

Quote:

Originally Posted by freetnt
I read some articles about rh5 certs on the past having the same question all the time. That means if you didn't pass first time , you get same questions 2nd time, etc ...

Can anybody confirm that, anybody who took the test 2nd time or 3th time? Is that the case with rh6 too?

Those people that know the answer aren't allowed to disclose this information due to the non-disclosure agreement they signed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freetnt
I saw a post on wikileaks, with a braindump from last exam(rh5) and readhat getting nervous and trying to remove that post ...

Red Hat is very serious about their non-disclosure and they will pursue anyone who breaks this agreement. Red Hat gives a few reasons why they "come after you" in the URL you posted:
Quote:

If authentic, their presence on your web site may assist people who wish to cheat on our exam; if not, then the documents mislead Red Hat exam candidates and is a clear misuse of our brand and trademarks.

About my comment about LQ policies: LQ has a rule that states:
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Posts containing information about cracking, piracy, warez, fraud or any topic that could be damaging to either LinuxQuestions.org or any third party will be immediately removed.
Even if someone here at LQ would answer your question it would be removed by one of the moderators.

I'm not trying to put you in your place or be a smart-ass in any way, just pointing out how things work here and at Red Hat (I'm not even sure I personally agree with these non-disclosure agreements in general, but that is another discussion altogether).

Hope this clears things up a bit.

tommylovell 10-17-2011 09:57 AM

And to emphasize what druuna pointed out,
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When someone takes a Red Hat exam s/he has to sign a non-disclosure agreement that states, among other things, that you can not share material, knowledge, or information about those exams. As I understand, Red Hat is very strict in this policy!
Strict, as in, they will revoke your certification AND bar you from ever taking the certification test again. Plus, sharing that sort of information diminishes the value of the certification.

freetnt 10-17-2011 09:59 AM

thanks druuna. now please stop this nonsense reply's. I would relay appreciate that. Your are driving the discussion into a wrong direction. I'm not asking for any disclose infos here. Again, thank you.

freetnt 10-17-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommylovell (Post 4500552)
And to emphasize what druuna pointed out,


Strict, as in, they will revoke your certification AND bar you from ever taking the certification test again. Plus, sharing that sort of information diminishes the value of the certification.

tommylovell, nobody asked for any disclosed infos / questions / braindumps. Where did you see anything like that in my posts?

tommylovell 10-17-2011 11:06 AM

You stated,
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Originally Posted by freetnt (Post 4500556)
I saw a post on wikileaks, with a braindump from last exam(rh5) and readhat getting nervous and trying to remove that post ...

I was commenting on it.

If you take a poll of all of us that have taken the time and effort to learn the material required for RH certification, my guess would be that this would be viewed as cheating (as Red Hat asserted) and thus diminish the value of the certification. Red Hat is protecting the integrity of the certification process.

Red Hat tells you what knowledge is required to pass each specific test and you are supposed to know all of it, not just a subset of what you know will be on a test. I didn't comment on the first part of your original post (I think druuna did a good job), and correct me if I'm wrong, but asking what subset will be on a test (so you don't need to study that material) falls into the "you can not share material, knowledge, or information about those exams" category that druuna pointed out. Unless you can get Red hat to tell you what'll be on subsequent tests, I don't think anyone here will.

onebuck 10-17-2011 01:21 PM

This thread is now closed for violation of the LQR;
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Posts containing information about cracking, piracy, warez, fraud or any topic that could be damaging to either LinuxQuestions.org or any third party will be immediately removed.
@OP This is a serious violation, even indirect linking to a Official request to have copyrighted and secured exams removed should be honored. WikiLeaks response to Red Hat would never stand up in a court of law.


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