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Old 11-15-2004, 07:38 PM   #61
timothykaine
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What Id like to know is if they plan on releasing any driver binaries for architechture other than IA32/64 for Linux. Id like to see support for Apple G4/5s running Linux using Nvidia cards.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 08:10 PM   #62
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TO: Job 1:12

Your attitude just makes one feel sorry for you. Seems that you have a real talent for making things work the first time around. Maybe spread the wealth, not the 'tude.

Dave
 
Old 11-15-2004, 08:58 PM   #63
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oh boy!

oh biy do i have some coments!


comming soon

and i will edit this thread.....
 
Old 11-16-2004, 12:27 AM   #64
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.. it's worthy to note that the 3d drivers produced by nvidia allowed many gamers to finally move over to their fav OS, Linux. The list of games that I can run smoothly and troublefree is amazingly large (native and trough cedega/wine) and this is primarily because of nvidia's well developed drivers.

Thank you Nvidia, keep up the good work and I'll continuously be a supporter of your products.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 12:57 AM   #65
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Originally posted by Job 1:12
One suggestion for you losers that can't even get a simple nvidia driver working RTFM! And a question for peep's that complain about nvidia drivers not shipping with linux, does winblows come with nvidia drivers? Answer No so, STFU.

Using Gentoo you just type "emerge nvidia-kernel" how much easier can it get?

Gentoo and Slackware pwnz Suse
Job 1:12 - This sort of commentary really isn't what LQ is about. Disagreement and lively discussion on a given topic is OK, but insults and disrespect towards others isn't. Please keep in mind that what may be a trivial or simple task for an experienced Linux user may be seriously confusing and difficult to someone who has only been using Linux for a short time, and that condescending attitudes don't really fit in with the goals of LQ. -- J.W.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 01:50 AM   #66
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Installing 3d drivers on Linux is a pain anyway no matter whether you use NVidia or ATI, experienced user or not.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 02:23 AM   #67
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I'm impressed with nVidia's attitude and this interview. I've got to admit that I've spent endless frustrating hours wrestling with ATI, and plan on making my next video upgrade a high-end nVidia card.
The same for me, but I've already upgraded from Ati 9800 XT to nVIDIA 6800 Ultra. It was impossible to me setup Ati to work with x.org and 2.6.x kernel (I don't say it is imposible, it was just above my ability). nVIDIA has excellent drivers - thank you very much!
 
Old 11-16-2004, 03:03 AM   #68
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Installing 3d drivers on Linux is a pain anyway no matter whether you use NVidia or ATI, experienced user or not.
Try Suse or Yoper. Suse has a one-click install/configure for it and Yoper installs and configures it by default during the one-click install. Do some homework.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 04:20 AM   #69
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Try Suse or Yoper. Suse has a one-click install/configure for it and Yoper installs and configures it by default during the one-click install. Do some homework.
Add MEPIS and Xandros to that list, on Xandros it comes preinstalled with the distro and with MEPIS you either type

apt-get install nvidia-glx

or install the nvidia-glx package through Synaptic.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 06:08 AM   #70
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We were going to set up a lab, for the Linux class in school, that involved doing a downloaded driver install. One of the candidates was the nvidia 3d driver, but it's gotten even simpler and more automated than the earlier versions that I remember (which still weren't too difficult, compared to other hardware drivers) so it was immediatly dismissed.

I don't know what exactly the licensing issues are but it would be nice if every hardware manufacturer gave up documentation or actual code to allow at least a basic open-source driver. Then if they wanted to add more complete functionality they could impliment more resources to either the existing open-source driver or an additional driver that was closed-source. I belive Intel does their network card drivers all 3 ways (documentation for kernel developers, open-source code and closed-source binaries to download.) I do wish nvidia could open up more but despite the fact that they don't they still have probably the most featuer rich 3D video driver available for Linux.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 11:38 AM   #71
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Originally posted by Job 1:12
One suggestion for you losers that can't even get a simple nvidia driver working RTFM! And a question for peep's that complain about nvidia drivers not shipping with linux, does winblows come with nvidia drivers? Answer No so, STFU.

Using Gentoo you just type "emerge nvidia-kernel" how much easier can it get?

Gentoo and Slackware pwnz Suse
i may be wrong buy i didn't see anyone mention drivers shipping with os's. and everyone who's tryed most of the linux distro's knows that a working nvidia driver comes with them. but ofcourse the age of the distro and the age of the hardware have to line up. a 5 year old distro isn't going to have anything for a two month old hardware.

the main topic of this thread is hardware manufactures shipping quality drivers for linux with there product. and of a driver for nvidia that enables 3d ecxeleration

and winblows comes with worse drivers, if at all, than linux dose.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 05:01 PM   #72
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i love Nvidia!!! they rule!!!

i use an nvidia gf2mx400 ddr and it runs great on my linux kernel 2.6

with NO craches, NO 3d bugs, NO video card fuckups, just...great performance from a great chip manufacturer.

downside is that ATI won the Googlefight (www.googlefight.com) must be complaints about ATI drivers on linux !
 
Old 11-16-2004, 05:41 PM   #73
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well I'm posting to say I'm sorry to the newbs that I insulted. I did'nt post that to be mean I meant it for their good, sorry bible thumping. But I still backup my post newbs should'nt complain about it being hard and say "when it gets easier I'll try again" they'll never get better that way. they need to read the documentation that comes with the driver, unlike with windows its actually worth something. And if they don't find the answer there than they should look through the LQ forums and that normally hold the answer.

and to help the newbs further the three biggest mistakes of newb trying to install the nvidia driver

1. They are using the riva-tnt2 framebuffer driver in the kernel

2. Forgot to make a template for the kernel

3. Forgot to make a symbolic link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.*

and yes Gentoo and slack still 0wn Suse

Last edited by Job 1:12; 11-16-2004 at 05:44 PM.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 05:45 PM   #74
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That googlefight is the most retarded thing I have ever seen. For instance, openoffice.org, openoffice and open office all produce different amounts...microsoft office won 2 of them and open office won the other one. That could mean that someone used the words open and office in the same page though, not referring to openoffice.org at all. Ack, waste of time.


Linux kicked the shit out of BSD though...

Linux had 207 million results, whereas bsd only had 12.4 million results.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 06:11 PM   #75
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Programmers need to eat too, if you starve us all to death all you'll get is an expensive metal box that can blink some LEDs, makes some beeps and get hot. W/o programmers your computer is useless so don't try to kill us all by taking away legitimate sources of income.
The identity "no paid programmers" = "no programmers at all" is false as you can see from the Free Software movement. It's like saying that with no Music Majors there would be no music. What about those guys called Wolfgang Amadeus and Ludwig then, uh?

BTW I have never said programmers should work for free. But nobody forced them to earn money without selling proprietary licences, either. Free Software doesn't mean working for free and selling proprietary licences isn't the only one way to earn money.


Quote:
Originally posted by DragonWisard
I believe in Open-Source but I also believe that people have to eat to live and you honestly don't need (or even want) EVERYTHING to be open-source.
You're wrong, I need and I want to, because my main goal isn't ONLY to be able to run great software. My main goal is to be able to run software that doesn't take my Freedom away. Maybe the problem is that you believe in Open Source and not in Free Software... In other words you believe in an empty box. =) (See below)


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One thing though, [in my opinion] it is of VITAL importance, that the Linux community, does not just sit there and accept closed source drivers without giving a proper fight, the more closed drivers / companies are about their hardware/software, the less poossible it is for the wonderful community of talented enthusiasts we have, to work towards producing a system which is as stable, robust and bug free as possible - especially with the rapid changes in our OS (X, etc?) that are ongoing.
Yes it's true. It's of vital importance but how do you think things will ever change?

IMO nothing will change until people will understand that what is great about Free Software operative systems such as GNU/Linux isn't that they work great, but that they are Free.

Nowadays everyone talks about "Linux", "thanks" to the Open Source Initiative, too. The Open Source Initiative was created to make the Free Software more tasty to the Business world. In order to accomplish their task, they basically took the Free Software definition and deleted any reference to Freedom thus taking away from the Free Software movement the philosophical body that would have scared companies so much.

Now here everyone talks about Linux instead of GNU/Linux, everyone talks about Open Source instead of Free Software, both Linux and Open Source are gaining more and more attention and maybe one could say that the Open Source Initiative was "successful".... But at which cost?

You can see it in this forum and in this very thread, too. A lot of people that want to play the cool guy and be able to tell their friends: "Hey, I run Linux so pheeear me..."

Why a guy that doesn't want anything apart from being able to run the last new shining proprietary videogame should ever care about the drivers for its video card being Free and Open or not?


Quote:
Originally posted by Dummy-in-Linux
I agree, if there are more games the Linux platform will be more accepted.

It is a bit funny that an operating system stands or falls with the availability of games.
That's what I was trying to say, light_QQ. Until people will believe in such a kind of things...
 
  


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