Incognito 2009.0 beta is out

anonym · 06-03-2009, 05:30 PM

syg00 · 06-04-2009, 12:39 AM

Mmmm - seems the iso is bad. Boot and launch under Windoze fails , so checked the MD5 - failed. Deleted and re-downloaded and that also failed the MD5.
Might try another mirror later.

Checks were on the iso(s), not the burnt disk.

Later: the iso from dun.nu also fails MD5.

anonym · 06-04-2009, 06:03 AM

You are correct, the iso on the ftp is corrupt. I'm re-uploading the files as we speak. It'll probably take a while before they are replicated to the other mirrors (it's done automatically) so use the main one from cjb.net.

syg00 · 06-09-2009, 12:12 AM

The main site download failed (null byte), but that may have been my fault. Using the mirror at dun.nu passed MD5 and booted successfully on one machine.
On a Dell 1100, I couldn't get X to give me a DE - I think it's the i810 driver and/or X-Server. This model is particularly bad due to the way it allocates video memory. i810 (and the newer intel driver) used to get around it o.k., but latest Ubuntu shows similar symptoms.
With incognito, I was unable to switch to any other vt, so I have no logs to go on.

Update: seems the hardware recognition is a little awry. Different system to the above - aligns off to the left of screen on a system with a Dell widescreen and an intel 865G chip; and can't be adjusted to fit (using the screen adjustment buttons). Seems it wants to run at the rating for the screen, rather than what the chip is capable of.
In "Configure Desktop", adjusting the resolution and "apply"ing did nothing. Ticking the "Apply settings on KDE restart" as well forced an X restart, and things were then usable.

anonym · 06-09-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by syg00

On a Dell 1100, I couldn't get X to give me a DE - I think it's the i810 driver and/or X-Server. This model is particularly bad due to the way it allocates video memory. i810 (and the newer intel driver) used to get around it o.k., but latest Ubuntu shows similar symptoms.

The i810 driver works well on my Dell Latitude X1 so if you're particular model is known to be problematic that is likely the case here. Note that since Incognito is still on xorg-server 1.3 we're on a pretty old i810 driver.

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Originally Posted by syg00

With incognito, I was unable to switch to any other vt, so I have no logs to go on.

How did this fail exactly? Did ALT+Fx simply not work? But what about vt1? It should present a login prompt (user incognito with empty password) after init has finished.

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Originally Posted by syg00

seems the hardware recognition is a little awry.

This is definitely the case. The Gentoo hardware detection stuff for LiveCDs is several years old, and that's why I'm working on migrating Incognito to *ubuntu as we speak.

syg00 · 06-09-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by anonym

How did this fail exactly? Did ALT+Fx simply not work? But what about vt1? It should present a login prompt (user incognito with empty password) after init has finished.

Nothing.
After the ACPI rule 1 (I'm going from memory) message, just a blank screen. No <ctrl>-<alt>-F1-8 or <alt>-F1-8 key combination worked.
Rebooted and went with the verbose option to see the messages - gave me a text login prompt. Login as incognito and then startx resulted in same.

suggestions · 06-24-2009, 01:07 PM

An important question to the 2009 beta: What are the most principal changes?

anonym · 06-25-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by suggestions

An important question to the 2009 beta: What are the most principal changes?

An important question indeed. The changes from 2008.1-r1 are:

Code:

changes since 2008.1
        - Incognito is now based on Hardened Gentoo, which should increase
          resistance towards certain exploits and increase the system security
          in general.
        - The root user is now disabled. If you need root privileges, add
          "debugmode" (without quotes) to the kernel command line in the boot
          menu to set an empty password for root, then use the su command
          to get root privileges.
        - Fixed the evil double-click bug when running in VMWare.
        - Applied a dirty fix for a problem that prevented the the memory
          clearing on shutdown.
          to essentially hang the system by consuming all memory.
        - Time (UTC) is now set using NTP whenever connected to a network. Tor
          needs a somewhat accurate clock, so this should fix the time skew
          problem experienced by some users in certain time zones.
        - Added support for VirtualBox, including VirtualBox additions
          (for mouse integration, time sync etc.)
        - Added IcedTea, a Java VM built from OpenJDK.
        - Added Freenet (http://freenetproject.org), an anonymous, distributed,
          censorship resistent data store.
        - Added i2p (http://www.i2p2.de), an anonymous overlay network.
        - Added Twinkle, VoIP software with support for SIP, ZRTP and SRTP.
        - Added KOffice integrated office suite.
        - Tor 0.2.0.34
        - TorK 0.31
        - Firefox 3.0.10
        - Thunderbird 2.0.0.21
        - Linux 2.6.28
        - New portage snapshot (2009-04-07) and major update of software base.
        - Added a French translation of the walkthrough.