Ok i've done some research about this you can read here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
And I see this is super bad news as there is going to be no freedom but my question is will this affect Linux cause this catastrophe is a collaboration between amd, intel, etc... so would this socalled "trusted computing" ever affect us linux users??? This is really bad for everybody and I'm planing on doing more research and even showing a project about this on university.
-Thanks

Yeah.......

This is like 1-2 year old news We've discussed it on many occasions here.

Maybe do a "search" on Palladium before you post.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ight=palladium

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...m&pagenumber=2

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ight=palladium

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ight=palladium


Thanks,
Whitehat

The common folk can't be trusted. Big multi-national corporations and the government though, they'd never do anything wrong.

As far as I'm concerned the way to fight this is simple: just don't buy products that support such intrusive features. If the U.S. government legislates its use, I'll just buy all my hardware and software from other countries. They can’t repeal free trade agreements at this point just to force people to comply with draconian laws. Kind of a catch 22 for them, what a pity.

But if this will affect Linux to what palladium hav to do with it??? Or is it that the combination of this hardware will be worst with Palladium???

it's just never going to happen. You can't force hardware manufacturers to create products that will mean they lose a great number of customers. Not...gonna...happen.

Any operating system that wants to utilise the features inherent in the upcoming "TCG hardware", will have to include software to achieve this - this isn't specific or exclusive to Msft - "Linux" will include corresponding software to enable it to utilise hardware enabled encryption technologies - so any fantasies of a Msft dominated "Trusted" world simply won't materialise - both Linux, Msft and a number of other platforms will include the neccesary software.........

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Originally posted by Kensai Ok i've done some research about this you can read here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html And I see this is super bad news as there is going to be no freedom ..."trusted computing" ever affect us linux users??? -Thanks

I really wouldn't fret over this idea. Even if it was done with the most forceful speed, it would take way to long to completely assimilate everyone. But there is no way this could get any control over Linux 'Nix users. I just don't see that!

ok then thanks for the Information and any news would be welcomed.

i must think that its actualy a good idea (well, not the way MS will use it, as that requires usuer to have internet acess just to use a computer --i sohuld point out i only read like 1/4 of it or so cuse its just too long for me to waste when i want to do other stuff ), i feel that a chip with encytpion and those memory curtains could be used in linux to enhance it, example: you could have a security program that other proseess wont be able to do anything with, this will help ensure the program wont get messed with and keeps the system stable, linux can use the enyption chips to decypt some docs (like pdf's), that came from your frineds that only he wants you to see , (ok so the chip is a bad idea as it makes more sence to just build the enyption into the MB, so the OS (if it wonts to) can tell the chip to enypt/dectpy ingoing/outgoing busses into devices like the hard drive,

the basicaly tectnology behind TC is kinda good for security, but to have programs you it to enforce things and delet personal files in ridicualus and i hope no ahrdware vendor will enforce that the OS use TC jsut to jsut the hardware, (i agree with the FSF as its treacorus computing)

piont being -- enforcement of this is a bad thing, but some of its teachnoly can be used to secure program/the linux kernel itself to be more tamper proof once it starts up

But you are thinking security here, What about freedom it will give you no freedom. If you ave something some documents or files that Microsoft thinks are offensive it will erase them. Thans no Freaking freedom.

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Originally posted by Kensai But you are thinking security here, What about freedom it will give you no freedom. If you ave something some documents or files that Microsoft thinks are offensive it will erase them. Thans no Freaking freedom.

Well, if that happened, but really I don't think it goes that far, but we all seem to have that all worked out using other then doz...

Nah..... Msft has no control over the various software implementations that will run on the coming TCG hardware - the specification is open and doesn't favour one platform over another - progress is apparently well under way to make Linux TCG compliant........ so fantasies/wishes of an Msft dominated "trusted" world simply won't materialise.........

thats software speciific, not hardware stuff, its up to software to delet stuff, and thats spyware, and no one in linux will ever put spyware on there system (onlything like that is monitors or companyies so tehy can bust people that look at pron or whatever at work), the harware stuff will just help protect certain key programs while leting everyhitng else go on as if its a normal system, only in MS will that deletion stuff and serial # every realy take place, i dont realy see y passes are required to look at a single text file, people will start going, y cant i have this, just cuse its a reglar .rm or .m3 or .mpeg .jpg and only cuse MS forces you to have conctect with keys and serials only!, people will start leaving and if hardware vendors are forced to make hardwaer that complys with this, a new computer will come out thats just as good as anyhitng else, but does what you tell it to, and dont lock you out of stuff unless you wnat to it (like those blackhole devices for security monetoring)