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Old 03-31-2004, 09:57 PM   #1
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Windows security is awsome! ...read this :)


i went on astalavista to find a trojan detector and while there, saw this. this is so awesome.

http://www.astalavista.com/?section=...ils&newsid=100


after you read it, answer these questions:
1) do you use credit cards on-line? hmmm... a LOT is stored on your comp, realize it or not...
2) run windows because you are a pirate and figure everything is free and easy to get? ONE mp3 = $1000 fine. what about a several hundred dollar program? especially when property of a software giant.
and the main point:
3) do you have trust in a multi-billion dollar corporation who can't even secure themselves, let alone everyone else?

we don't need to get into a why use linux vs m$ argument, its overdone, I use windows mostly but this made me REALLY think. I basically wanted people to realize the risks with ANY OS connected to the internet, but especially windoze.

no real point other than that.
 
Old 03-31-2004, 11:46 PM   #2
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It does make you wonder. Such strong points about using Linux or another.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 04:21 AM   #3
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if you look at the stats for the person who hacked there site

http://www.zone-h.org/defacements/fi...defacer=c0d3rz

you will see there was a load of sites hacked on the same day, this is not just a hack at m$ it looks like it has been scripted to hack one hell of a load of sites!!
 
Old 04-01-2004, 04:59 AM   #4
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LOL, its about time M$ gets hacked thanks to there own stupidity!,, its a shame they didn't get ww.msn.com , and replaced the pictures to something else (anything but sick stuff that i wont list here), and maybe set up a story on there site that people can read ( a article about how windows security is a joke), and maybe phrase it so people can think that M$ is admitting to making bad software, with-holding updates, and how bloated it is, and even how they plan to conquerer the computing world..... and give them a link to alternate OS's (SuSe, Red Hat, anything relatively easy to use)

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Old 04-01-2004, 01:31 PM   #5
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//moderator.note: not a Linux security issue. Moved to /General.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 01:31 PM   #6
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:54 PM   #7
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Well, Debian was hacked some time ago as was GNOME very recently, does that mean debian and gnome suck? No. Becuase something is hacked doesnt make it bad, you ahve to realize this. Windows is hacked more often because hackers see windows as the easiest target, know why?

This is a bit of hearsay, but whatever. One site said 95% of people on the internet use IE, therefore I say 95% of people on the net use windows, correct? There are probably more using mozilla or whatnot in windows, but nevertheless, at least 95% of people are using windows on the net.

Does this not make it nicer for all the hackers hard work to affect 95% of boxes on the net, not 5% with linux and whatnot? Think about it. If Linux was 95% of the computers on the net there would be a shitload of viruses for that too. You claim that linux is better because it is open source, well a creative hacker could look at this open source and find holes.

Linux is not perfect and the only reason there are few viruses and hacks on linux because it is a minority. If it had as much on the net as microsoft, it would have just as many viruses.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 02:20 PM   #8
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The reason most people come down on MS is cause they swear left and right that their software is so secure but you have instance after instance that it is not. Yes there are vulnerabilities in any OS but when a company flat out lies over and over it starts to get ridiculous. Their next OS with the TC technology might be very secure but then it becomes very limiting also. The difference in Linux is that it is already more secure but doesn't give you the limits.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 02:21 PM   #9
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True enough, but the permissions structure integral in Linux and OS X make it way harder -- example - how are you gonna get the whole address book to relay a stupid worm?
 
Old 04-01-2004, 02:29 PM   #10
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Depends, if you arent STUPID, you wont get worms, comprendez? It is moron who open attachments and shit like that who get all these worms, if someone sends me something with an attachment which I did not request, I simply delete it. I do not care. And if this person repeatedly emails me forwards and attachemnts I tell him to stop or just block him.

Most viruses are spread by morons.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 02:33 PM   #11
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Well that is entirely true. Pretty damned ridiculous actually. Like I told a friend of mine a few weeks ago - - if I had sent off that doom, I woulda been thinking 'this isn't gonna work, they all must be on to the attachment deal by now but what the hell.' Imagine that. It worked only cause of stupid people like you said
 
Old 04-01-2004, 02:35 PM   #12
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I know. Stupid people are the curse of this world, they will destroy it.

 
Old 04-01-2004, 04:19 PM   #13
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Stupid people won't destroy the world, the smart people will do something good but then the stupid people will try to make an imitation of it. The smart people will get mad and destroy the stupid people.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 09:05 PM   #14
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A gaint said:the great may do the lowest mistakes!that's mean U may make mistakes,it doesn't matter,because you are a person!
 
Old 04-02-2004, 12:33 AM   #15
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Originally posted by SciYro
LOL, its about time M$ gets hacked thanks to there own stupidity!,,
No one deserves to be hacked Just because something they do is stupid, I agree they have a monpoly and should be split up, and windows is a horrible OS but just because someone or a group of people are stupid doesnt mean they should be taken advantage of. If someone dropped their wallet by accident in a market in front of you would you steal it and think, wow they are stupid or pick it up and give it back to them?
 
  


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