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shivaa 12-08-2012 01:52 AM

Will Sun Microsystems be ever re-build again?
 
I feel that Sun Microsystems was a company with good ethics & served a lot to Unix and Unix lovers...
It should have keep alive to serve more! But unfortunately Oracel swallowed it.. :(
Will it ever be started again...?

jefro 12-08-2012 12:02 PM

Huge companies buy up smaller ones for various reasons. One major reason people don't know about is that the big company found it was cheaper to buy up a company than to buy bit by bit. For example. You need new servers in your company. Total cost to buy them might run $100,000 million or more. You find that you also need software that the smaller company owns. Another hundred million. By this time you find out they have patents and customers and office leases and technical people that offset the few billion you paid.

Oracle has indicated that they have no interest in a separate Sun system group. They have consumed what they wanted from Sun and will part out and take tax credits and stock schemes and what not.

Sun will find it's place along with Lotus and Digital Equipment.

NyteOwl 12-08-2012 02:05 PM

I have to agree with jefro. Once Oracle bought it out, Sun was doomed. Another corporation may have seen some value in retaining and revitalizing Sun but Oracle is a cross between a corporate predator and corporate parasite.

H_TeXMeX_H 12-09-2012 04:08 AM

Sun was never very good at open-source. Sure they open-sourced their software, but development of it was kept closed. Oracle bought Sun and its fate is sealed, there is no going back now.

I think it is actually a good thing that Oracle bought Sun. I mean this has spurred development of forks like Libreoffice and Icedtea.

sundialsvcs 12-09-2012 01:32 PM

Sun wasn't making it anymore as a stand-alone company ... but they make good stuff.

Meanwhile, Oracle sells extremely high-end server software such that part of their business is to sell a box. Already configured, just put it in the rack or what-have-you and turn it on and go. There's some of the Sun stuff now.

shivaa 12-09-2012 01:43 PM

I think Sun was a dream for Oracle for ever. I remember, after taking over Sun, Oracle's tagline was something like :)
Software. Hardware. Complete
So in order to complete itself, Oracle indeed needed Sun and it's hardware technologies.. and they finally did it!
But Sun had given much to Unix and Unix lovers.. specially Solaris, which is assumed to be the pursest commercial form of Unix among other available distros today.. rest all are highly customized.
How can one forget technologies like Java, NIS, NFS, MySQL etc...

kooru 12-10-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4845576)
Sun was never very good at open-source. Sure they open-sourced their software, but development of it was kept closed. Oracle bought Sun and its fate is sealed, there is no going back now.

I think it is actually a good thing that Oracle bought Sun. I mean this has spurred development of forks like Libreoffice and Icedtea.

Anyway it's a pity for opensolaris, dead after the acquisition of Sun.

sundialsvcs 12-11-2012 08:54 AM

Oracle did take over some technologies they wound up acquiring, like OpenOffice, before spinning them off to foundations ... and continuing to support those foundations.

AnanthaP 12-13-2012 07:53 AM

After Larry got cloud religion he has named the latest release in 14c or something. His cloud server offerings are said to have SUN technology and AWS services.

OK

/dev/random 12-13-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4845576)
Sun was never very good at open-source. Sure they open-sourced their software, but development of it was kept closed. Oracle bought Sun and its fate is sealed, there is no going back now.

I think it is actually a good thing that Oracle bought Sun. I mean this has spurred development of forks like Libreoffice and Icedtea.

I don't know about that, maybe in software, but they were one of the best in hardware, I think they were one of the first big companies that open sourced their cpu's.
I don't like Oracles stance on somethings, but I agree that it was a good things these two merged, I just would have liked if it their more Sun and less Oracle.


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