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Old 05-27-2002, 07:46 PM   #61
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why should i use windows? why should i use a mac? why should i use openbsd?

openbox on linux. i'm comfortable with this setup. started with kde in - then gnome - then blackbox - now openbox.

i'd rather spend money on a mac then buy a windows box. at least it would look pretty sitting in the corner.

windows just doesn't have anything to offer me.

why the hell would i use windows?
 
Old 06-01-2002, 08:43 AM   #62
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its OSs has its one purpose . . .

I need both win32 and linux the same time . .each one for other uses . . .

(I add this to make the total messages 1000 )
 
Old 06-01-2002, 09:34 AM   #63
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Originally posted by sapilas




(I add this to make the total messages 1000 )
Hmm. For me it looks like it's the number of views above 1000, not posts.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 10:54 AM   #64
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sorry . . .
 
Old 06-01-2002, 11:59 AM   #65
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I use linux about 80-85% of the time, windows about 1-2%
and Mac OS the rest of the time. I only use windows
when i have to, and Mac os because i havn't found any good
emulators for Linux PPC (SNES, Gameboy, NES) or a player for
apple Quicktime movies, but i think linux is the best thing
that's happened to me so far
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:06 PM   #66
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When using linux in gui, it's stability doesn't get much better than win 2k/xp. There are programs not starting, there programs droping segmentation faults, and it isn't any faster than windoze.

Maybe I should try different distro, but doubt it'd be much different.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:20 PM   #67
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RH 7.3 ???
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:36 PM   #68
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Looks like there wasn't a server admin in here yet. In the last two months I logged over 350 IIS specific worm attacks on my server. I logged about 5 human launched attacks - and my site isn't even all that popular (getting about 10 000 hits a month). The server has been up and running 63 days straight. Absolutely *no* downtime at all. ok, except the odd few seconds where the routers or the diginet fail. Ot when you restart a service becaus you updated the configuration or upgraded the packages.

Can Windows claim the same? I think not, the longest I'm aware of for a NT server up and running is something like two weeks (please feel free to correct me). Absolutely no idea how many security holes, and counting. The longest I ever had to wait for a security fix in linux was slightly over a day. How long was "Code Red" running havoc? Two weeks?

Not even to speak about all the extensions that makes IIS (windows server) even more insecure.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:38 PM   #69
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Noerr what windows manager are you using? I am assuming that you either use Gnome or KDE; well these two are resource hogs that is true. But until you use Blackbox, enlightenemnt, and many others, I don't think you could say that the GUI in Linux is just as bad as in wondows.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:49 PM   #70
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konningshoed: I was talking about runlevel5. I'm perfectly aware that it is stable in server usage. btw 63 days (you must have missed 10+ kernels
But try to run kde, play around install wine, games, apps and get back to me when ctr+alt+del doesn't work
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:50 PM   #71
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Personally I prefer blackbox over everything else I've seen - including the friendly windows.

Also, I've seen kde dump about 6MB of stuff in a home directory (may I add there is a quota of 10MB on those homedirs and there was already 4MB of stuff in there?).
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:57 PM   #72
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Sfin: I'm not big time gui user, but I've used gnome, kde and you probably have also experienced programs droping segmentation faults ..

Just two days ago, when I renewed my web server with rh73, I played around a little with kde3 and installed opera, and it took 10 mins to stale kde, and I wasn't even able to kill it from console, so I logged in from windoze to ssh and kill proccesses
 
Old 06-01-2002, 02:02 PM   #73
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and btw, I managed to freeze screen (command- not display) in shell at least 3 times in last 2 weeks in RH72 and rh73.
and remember
what is you option when playing around with drivers and getting stucked with driver refusing to unload.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 02:09 PM   #74
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btw
don't forget the fact that linux users are on avarege much more skilled than windoze. And how many times I wonder how people manage to screw up their windows or progz, when you use them normally it would never get stucked. And now imagine all those users moving to Linux, and complaining " I didn't touch my computer and files got erased"(my favourite answer), "I haven't opened any email, how I got virus"..., and then compare stability.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 02:17 PM   #75
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but!
It's logical. When stability theory came out it was win98 and linux 2.0, and since then both systems went a long way. m$ improving stability, linux adding user friendlines.
I personally can not imagine windoze having 4+ display managers 1000+ progz, runing servers apps, being multi terminal. It couldn't even run, not mention to being stable
 
  


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