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kees-jan 11-29-2004 09:41 AM

Why do people call themselves n00bs ??
 
Hi,

I'm a bit puzzled. I've seen a lot of posts lately with people calling themselves n00bs. So I did some googling, and found out that it is some kind of insult often used for the most stupid newbies. Yet in these fora, people call themselves n00bs with a tone of pride.

I must be missing something. Can someone help me out here?

Thanks!

Kees-Jan

XavierP 11-29-2004 09:43 AM

Noob or N00b is short for Newbie or new user. Since we don't use it as an insult here, everyone seems perfectly happy to call themselves a newbie. To be honest, the vast number of posts I've seen even have our more experienced members saying they are still newbies, so there you go. :)

kees-jan 11-29-2004 09:48 AM

Oh... I would have no problem calling myself a newbie, though I wouldn't necessarily take pride in it. But since n00b seems to have an insulting connotation, I was wondering why some people prefer it over "newbie".

Groetjes,

Kees-Jan

killer_bunny 11-29-2004 09:49 AM

Yeah, everybody are n00bs for some stuff...

It depend on content of the sentence is the word used as insult or not...

trickykid 11-29-2004 09:52 AM

I'm still a newbie.. ;)

I prefer newbie though.. not noob or n00b... etc.

tenmiles 11-29-2004 10:54 AM

trickykid, you have 17000 posts and u call urself a noob. i have less than 25 and i dont really consider myself a complete noob. i admit that there is alot i do not know, but i know more than people who are starting out. i draw the line at knowing what my frined means when he tells me to enter some of the less common commands in the terminal. when i dont have to ask what the syntax is for a command than not i consider myself just above noob. still not really an experianced user, but not noob

trickykid 11-29-2004 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenmiles
trickykid, you have 17000 posts and u call urself a noob. i have less than 25 and i dont really consider myself a complete noob.
Sure, there is always something to learn and post counts don't mean squat to me.. ;)

halo14 11-29-2004 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenmiles
trickykid, you have 17000 posts and u call urself a noob. i have less than 25 and i dont really consider myself a complete noob. i admit that there is alot i do not know, but i know more than people who are starting out. i draw the line at knowing what my frined means when he tells me to enter some of the less common commands in the terminal. when i dont have to ask what the syntax is for a command than not i consider myself just above noob. still not really an experianced user, but not noob
I have over 400 posts... and I'm still very much a newbie... I think everyone is.. it's not derogatory... n00b is meant to be derogatory when used in gaming generally... here... it just means.. hey, I need some help guys...

If you post a question about something that you need help on, you're a newbie (or n00b) in that area... When people refer to n00b question... they are generally referring to something which should be avery simple task, but they haven't quite figured out yet... For me... one of my first newbie-type questions, i remember was trying to use my usb jumpdrive. Don't read anything on this site that says "n00b" as derogatory... think of it as "I'm new to linux, and I'm a little stuck here"

Tinkster 11-29-2004 11:24 AM

Moved to general - not a Linux question at all ;)

egag 11-29-2004 11:31 AM

don't like n00b, sounds pathetic like " help i know nothing "
and thats not true. but it's a good thing that on this forum it's interpreted as " newbie " ( sound's nice ).

but i don't like the 6 yellow things dancing before my eyes saying" newbie "

egag

The Bad Penny 11-29-2004 01:23 PM

I absolutely detest the use of the word noob or even n00b,, Im not really sure why but it probably has to do with the derogatory use of those words in other boards.
newbie sounds better and the implied use of that word is not anywhere near as bad, but I gotta say if tricky still calls himself a newbie with all his linux experience and knowledge,,,,,,,,

then Im giving up linux altogether and going back to windows 3.11 cos theres just no hope for me at all ;)

Sorry,,, but thats just tearing the @rse out of being humble tricky :D ;)

da_zombie 11-29-2004 01:59 PM

its like girls who always remain virgins till their wedding nights....

halo14 11-29-2004 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by da_zombie
its like girls who always remain virgins till their wedding nights....
wtf?? lol!!

yep.. you're either a newbie or a guru... no intermediacy... lol... :p

wapcaplet 11-29-2004 03:26 PM

Hey we should start a series of books...

C++ for n00bs
Buying a House for n00bs
Automotive Repair for n00bs
b00bs for n00bs

etc.

halo14 11-29-2004 03:31 PM

nice!

apparently, there should be an introductory level book: n00bs for n00bs...

er.. that could be either an introduction to ow to be a n00b, or possibly a dating service for kids in junior high?? :D hehe

darin3200 11-29-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by halo14
wtf?? lol!!

yep.. you're either a newbie or a guru... no intermediacy... lol... :p

I'm don't consider myself a newbie but there is a LOT more I can learn. Often people use to newbie to indicate their lack of knowledge in an area. If I post a question about something I don't know much about I would say that I'm a newb so people don't assume that I have some understanding of the subject.

PseudoX 11-30-2004 01:33 AM

im certainly a newbie, for linux that is.

there is nothing wrong with being called a n00b, unless its in an agressive manner i think. its almost a complement. nearly :D

vharishankar 11-30-2004 03:57 AM

I like the term "fresher" or "newcomer" or "learner" or even "student".

Newbie is not a very generic term, however. It is used mostly in the context of computers and technology in general.

baldy3105 11-30-2004 05:03 AM

I have no problem calling myself a n00b. In my own field I am considered a Guru, although I would hesitate to make that claim myself. In others, particularly this one, there are whole area's in which my understanding is almost zero. When I calll myself a n00b here its a shorthand way of saying, "sorry for being completey dim guys, but..."

I think that Guru is term that can only be given to you, people who claim it for themselves are too often deluded. Real Guru's understand the old adage - "the more I know, the more I realise I don't know"

But you can claim to be a n00b, its simply an admission that you really are out of your depth and need help, after all admitting there's a problem is the first step towards solving it.

"The company of those seeking the truth is infinitely preferable to that of those who think they've found it" - Terry Pratchett

Just my ever-so-humble opinion :p

toastermaker 12-01-2004 10:11 PM

A rose by any other name....

kees-jan 12-02-2004 02:22 AM

Undeniably true. But if you call a rose a pile of sh*t, it sounds a lot less attractive.

And although there are people claiming to have no particular dislike for piles of sh*t, the odor remains.

So I can't help but wonder why a rose would call himself a pile of sh*t

(with apologies for the somewhat distasteful comparison)

baldy3105 12-02-2004 04:45 AM

Quote:

why a rose would call himself a pile of sh*t
Talking roses! what are you smoking man? I want some!

da_zombie 12-02-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kees-jan
... But if you call a rose a pile of sh*t, it sounds a lot less attractive.

......

LOL HA HA :)

that reminds me of a quote i read somewhere "whats in a name?...but a chrysanthemum with any other name could have been spelt much easier"

Brain Drop 12-02-2004 07:44 AM

A little self-deprecation will bow your head before you enter the sacred Liunux temple with your question.

vharishankar 12-02-2004 09:05 AM

Frankly, I think that the term "n00b" or newbie is being misused by many people to be lazy and ask pretty silly questions on the forums. Out of all the posts which ask questions in the stupid manner (read: without doing research) 90% of them aren't (total) newbies at all. One would think they do know something about Linux but they are simply being lazy to search for a good answer. And they think it's an excuse for them to ask questions like:

Help!!
Please help me!!!!

A pretty good excuse, eh? Put a couple of smilies :) there and say, "I'm a n00b to Linux! Please help me install <this> or <that>!!!" without giving absolutely any details and assuming that the whole world can read their minds... :rolleyes:

Even my first post on this forum wasn't a blind call for help! I detailed my problem as much as possible even though I was new to Linux at that time.

See here for my first thread on LQ (long time ago ;) and still unanswered... :()
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=127218

I did a hell of a lot of research before posting that one. Turned out that ATI hadn't released the 3d accelerated drivers for Linux at that time which wasn't so obvious.

Pcghost 12-03-2004 04:59 PM

The Linux development cycle is so fast that you can go to sleep on Friday a guru, and wake up Monday morning a newB. I like to break it down further myself (see sig below), and I dig LQ Addict as a title because it fits.

Tuttle 12-03-2004 05:19 PM

I just think it's bad english; but then I am a f**kin' snob, innit


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