WHO finally admits cell phones increase cancer risk
 

This was on the wiki news:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_...ion_and_health

Use a separate corded ear phone, if you really care of course, but don't say I didn't warn you.

And don't use your mobile 'phone while eating Spanish cucumbers. :tisk:

Yea...I'm sure more people die from texting while driving, so they won't have a chance for the cancer to build up to kill them!

That may be true, however, for people who have a brain and don't do that ... maybe there is hope.

Funny how things turns out...... I think all the old phone without a visible antenna, the transmitter
use to be on the top part of the phone, so you get a nice dose of cell phone radiation into you brain when you hold the phone to your ear. Recently I noticed that the manufactures have move the transmitter to the bottom of the phone so your jaw will get more radiation than your brain.
Did the manufactures know about the "possibly carcinogenic effect to humans" way back and quietly switched the position of the transmitter.

Also if you were to read your cell phone booklet, it says the transmitter antenna on the cell phone emits radio waves humm at 850 and 900mhz yes but at 1800 and 1900 mhz that is microwave ( radio/TV waves are approximately 50-1000mhz, microwaves start around 1000mhz)


:scratch: (what is this lump doing here???)

Study shows endless speculation over the causes of cancer, causes cancer
 

"In a revelation set to strike fear into the hearts of tabloid health journalists everywhere, a new study shows that wild and baseless speculation over the causes of cancer is one of the leading causes of cancer."

http://newsthump.com/2011/05/31/stud...causes-cancer/

In medical terms nothing really causes cancer (except some viruses and radiation), most other things are risk factors that increase the chances, for example things that depress your immune system.

From what I know there are these components to cancer:

DNA damage:
Viruses (ex. HPV, HTLV-1, EBV, HBV, etc) - usually latent viruses that integrate into the genome and this can cause DNA damage. Usually they inactive p53, which is the case for over 50% of cancers.

Radiation (any high energy EM radiation, Cell-phones, microwaves, X-rays, etc) - causes DNA breaks in DNA, that if not repaired properly can cause cancer by deactivating critical genes like p53.

DNA repair:
It is known that medical conditions that impair DNA repair mechanisms increase the risk of cancer, because obviously if DNA is not repaired properly critical genes may be deactivated, or oncogenes activated.

Immune system:
Did you know that a health immune system is able to destroy cancer cells as soon as they appear ? This is its job, especially NK cells and cytotoxic T cells. If your immune system is depressed = immunosuppression or not working properly = immunoincompetence, then obviously it will not be able to keep tumors at bay and they will grow out of control.

So, if you know these three parts, you can do things to prevent cancer. For example, avoid radiation (including cell phones) and latent viruses (usually STDs), and don't do anything that will suppress your immune system (smoking, alcohol, fluoride, etc).

That's just my advice, that I also take and believe in.

Doesn't mean that they simply don't know if it is carcinogenic?

More like they consider that there is not enough evidence. Of course, people can check the evidence and decide for themselves. You can check the whole list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...2B_carcinogens

WHO classified it as a group 2B carcinogen, which basically means that there is limited evidence for it being a carcinogen.

Essentially WHO is just hedging. Current studies are contradictory enough that they can't make a firm conclusion either way. However, as usual, the media is blowing this all out of proportion, largely because the issues are too complicated for them to understand.

I think there is no doubt that it does microwave your brain to some degree. As to whether this will directly lead to cancer ... that is possible, but not yet proven conclusively. Personally, it's always better to be safe than sorry, I'll be using hands-free and maybe so foil insulation for the phone at least on the side facing me.

As does pretty much every other emitter of radiation out there. The question isn't whether or not cell phones emit radiation, the question is whether or not the effects are harmful. To date there is no good data either way.

So how are you handling other sources of radiative energy? Like the sun, your microwave, your wireless router, etc. What people never seem to understand is that we are pretty much constantly bathed in all sorts of energy waves, and have been since the dawn of time. Of course understanding that gets in the way of having a good panic over nothing.

Isn't that the position taken offically by tobacco companies in the 1950s-1990s period?

I have an EM wave detector, and the microwave is mostly insulated by metal, there's not much of a reading on it, except very close to it. When a cell phone rings next to my speakers or any speakers even large ones meters away, they buzz loudly. There's also a large EM signal when you receive a call. And there's also the fact that you keep a cell phone no more than 1 cm away from your brain for hours on end. Do consider it carefully.

Not at all. In the case of tobacco, there was a boatload of good, solid scientific data showing it was amazingly harmful. Part of the reason for the original Surgeon General's report was that the data showing how harmful tobacco is were so strong, it simply couldn't be ignored any longer. The tobacco companies went on a campaign starting in the 60's to discredit that information and replace it with disinformation of their own.

In this case, there really hasn't been even one study definitively showing that cell phones cause cancer. The data have been ambigous at best, and that is probably why WHO put it in the class 2B of carcinogens. If you read the definition of class 2B, it is stuff that needs more study. And as far as I know, none of the studies on cell phone radiation have been paid for by the cell phone manufacturers.

So no, the two situations have almost nothing in common.