if iraq starts selling fuel fuel prices will go down thats what bush wants

The reason we are not going after North Korea is because they haven't had 12 years to disarm. It hasn't been that long dealing with them. Don't worry. According to the UN time plan we will deal with North Korea in 2013.

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Please remember that there are a great deal of Americans that do not agree with what Bush does. We are both sickened and shocked by this administrations actions and arrogance.

I WILL be voting this man out of office next election.

Okey, let me give some of you a peace of my mind.

The UN, which was created after ww2 had the mandate to prevent future wars as much as possible. It was create with the tought in mind that the peoples of the world could finnaly astablish a wolrld democracy, where the world as a whole could judge what to do in crises situations. That an institution could be created that looked after the interests of the whole of mankind.
The US in effect blew up this institution, and mind you not the french or any other nation. No the US did. The entire f....ing world was against this war, not just france, but the Bush administration whent on and did it any way. Were is the domocracy in that?

Talking about fake democracy brings me to a nother point. Many goverments all over the world support bush. Spain for instance is supportive. But think about it, in Spain alone there were 2 million (!!) protesters against this war. I'm talking about the big woldwide protest a month or so ago, I can't remember the exact date. So what can you conclude about what the support of a goverment of a counry tells you about the real sentiment of the people in that country? The same goes for the netherlands and many other countries, ever GB. And here I thought a democracy always reflects the sentiments of the people of that country. So the claim of the Bush administartion that over 40 countries support the war is, at best misleadig.

The real goal in the short term of the US is to establish a friendly goverment in Iraq. Friendly to the west that is. The US says the oli in Iraq will be used for the benefit of the Iraqies. Not doubte that will be the case. I think the US will try to influance the price at which the Iraqi oli will be sold. Think about it, if the oil out of Iraq will be cheaper then the oli out of other oil producing nations, what effect will that have on the oil price world wide? Yes, good guess, it will drop like a brick because other oli producing nations will have to lower there price as well to be able to compeat wiith Iraq.

As for the US argument that they want to remove an evil regime. Well, who help to create that regime in the first place. For those who don't know, the CIA helped sadam to power in exchange for his help to combat the communists in Iraq. Sadam, as evil as he is, agreed to execute a few hundred suspected communists, on a list profided by the CIA. Further more, as was pointed out earlier , the US didn't seem to have a problem with Sadam when he used weapons of mass destruction against Iran and on his own people. It was not until after 91 that that suddenly became an argument to remove him from power.

NOT !!!!

As I remember correctly, there have been quite a few years since North Korea signed a treaty in which they agreed to not make nuks in exchange for a nuclear powerplant build by the US.

macewan, I'm well aware of that fact. I have on hard felling for (nearly) no one. Infact, I have an uncle who is an patriotic American. And I care deeply about him. When I say US, I mean the bush administration

We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy.

US Supreme Court Justice Robert L. Jackson
Chief US Prosecutor at the Nuremberg Tribunals
August 12, 1945

As with all, I hope for a short war, with few deaths (civilian or military), and a peaceful resolution. This war is against the UN charter and (as an international treaty), against the US constitution. The illegitimate Bush administration, unlike the French, the Germans, yeh, even the Chinese and Russians (only with other nations, I mention these only because they are major current players on the Security Council) has no sense of diplomacy -- one cannot act like a spoiled child and say if you don't do it my way, I quit. I am ashamed of the pretender rulers of this, my country, the United States, who take glee in causing death and destruction and look forward to the day when some of these so-called leaders may be brought to trial.

Lower prices = oil companies get less money

I don't think it's one big conspiracy to please Chevron- because, after all, Bush used to work in the oil industry! :rollseyes:- but this article had a pretty plausible argument

http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

i look forward to the day we look back on the bush admin* - someday history will uncover this admins dirty little secrets and backroom deals.

...revelations which, of course, will still make him look like an angel next to hussein... or at worst, on par with chirac...

can't wait till someone brings up the Protocols from the Elders of Zion to prove this or that...

Of cource you realise that this website has a political agenda?

show me one that doesn't.

my point wasn't just about this war. i mean everything this admin* has been involved with since before they got in office.

and i'm telling you not to turn a blind eye to the rest of the world governments. nothing going on in the white house is any worse than what's going on behind closed doors in paris, moscow, or berlin. what's the difference between dick cheney's halliburton and chirac's ELF-Aquitaine?

try reading up about events on the ivory coast... france isn't exactly one to talk about anti-imperialism. china is no one to give the US lessons in humanitarian issues. ditto germany. why are people blaming the US for what's going on in N. Korea instead of placing some of the responsibility on Russia or China? or, god forbid, why not blame the freaking dictators in charge?

of course, just blaming the US is easier. nice big diverse target, and they won't kill you just for speaking your mind, unlike a good 60% of the governments in the rest of the world.