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teckk 06-07-2013 08:02 AM

U.S. mining data
 
http://m.washingtonpost.com/investig...497_print.html

http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013...iants-nsa-data

linuxCode 06-07-2013 10:44 AM

Nothing surprises me anymore. Our privacy has been tossed out the windows eons ago. I even doubt if privacy mode in our browsers have any affect. Who knows what's their real intentions with our data.

teckk 06-07-2013 03:00 PM

http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013...iants-nsa-data

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/06/ne...#ixzz2VXyj8PeR

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2VYWMfqp7

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/07/ne...#ixzz2VYZSDzox

kooru 06-08-2013 02:49 AM

Now officially we know what we unofficially knew.

H_TeXMeX_H 06-08-2013 05:55 AM

There's also a wiki article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%...nce_program%29

syg00 06-08-2013 06:15 AM

What a coincidence - "Enemy of the State" is just airing here on free-to-air ...

One of my all time favourites.

Habitual 06-08-2013 07:19 AM

12+ years now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_program

hak5freak 06-08-2013 01:19 PM

I think they're spying on my grandmother's cookie recipes.

Seriously, is the US getting a little too paranoid :rolleyes:

H_TeXMeX_H 06-09-2013 07:39 AM

Also see:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...bal-datamining

H_TeXMeX_H 06-12-2013 09:55 AM

I see that people are now recommending Tor + HTTPS to combat this:
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/06/11...-tor-can-help/
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/prism-vs-tor

There's a problem tho. Check the diagram:
https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https

All the NSA need to do to snoop on Tor is generate or obtain a fake SSL certificate. Something not too difficult nowadays, just search a search engine, and you'll find plenty of news on the subject:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fake+ssl&kp=-1
This would obviously be a trivial task for the NSA.

Now, being paranoid, I think Tor itself, and the way it is pushed and promoted suggests that something is behind them too. I wonder how much the NSA had to do with the design of Tor. Obviously end-to-end encryption is better. I know freenet uses this, but also runs on Java ... and I'm sure you've read plenty about Java and security recently.

Also see:
http://cyberwarzone.com/did-nsa-put-...ption-standard

Conclusion: You are not and cannot be anonymous to the NSA. They see all.

Now, here's another question: "Knowing" that Tor makes you "anonymous", how much more likely are you to do things you aren't supposed to ? I gotta hand it to them, they have done well.

linuxCode 06-12-2013 12:50 PM

They're not monitoring every person as everyone might think. That would cost money and time for useless data gathering. What they're looking for are certain keywords in communication. They use super computers to filter keywords related to terrorism, weapons of terrorism and/or hate terms against the USA which triggers a red flag on your communication. That's what I heard on a talk show on my radio. But is it the truth???

H_TeXMeX_H 06-12-2013 01:02 PM

Very little is known about the NSA. Other agencies might do what you say, but you never know with the NSA. From the data centers they have built and are building they are hoarding massive amounts of data (not unlike another secret service from the past). This time, however, they have the advent of advanced search engines, such as their good friend Google, whom they surely helped to come into being. I think they'd rather store the data and search it later when they might need to.

jlinkels 06-12-2013 01:16 PM

Although I am strongly against any terrorism acts, I am also against unlimited data mining, warrantless searches and TSA airport terrorism.

The search for terrorism acts has been highly unsuccessful, and again and again it appears agencies have lacked co-operation or have simple been ignoring red flags and clear signals. That should be solved by making the agencies more efficient and doing their work right, not by granting them more rights for invasion of privacy.

jlinkels

linuxCode 06-12-2013 01:36 PM

Well that's it. Our privacy is non-existence. Maybe this is a sampling of the New World Order our country is heading to where everyone is suspicious.

H_TeXMeX_H 06-14-2013 03:06 AM

Steve Wozniak Compares the Cloud and PRISM To Communist Russia
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/06/...mmunist-russia
I agree with him, although I would also sprinkle in the Stasi (New StAsi).


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