I was playing around with different desktops and tried TWM. I actually found a few really nice features it it that I like:

Clicking and dragging the resize button on the titlebar is much easier than trying to click on a thin window border.

Instead of putting windows anywhere it wants, it asks you by turning your cursor into an outline of the window. It creates the window once you click.

I think this is easier because most WMs don't put the window where you want it in the first place, so you still have to move it.

I wonder why other WMs don't implement stuff like this?

And I wonder if it is possible for FVWM2 to act like this, but without sacrifising the maximize button and multiple desktops?

Have you ever tried Fluxbox? There's a ton of useful info available, and yes, you can determine where your X windows will open. But you can also set their dimension and position so they will open the same way every time. It's pretty slick, and I use it exclusively. (After playing with a lot of other options, including TWM.)

I'll read about Fluxbox later.

For now, I am using FVWM2 and I set it up so that it has one button to the right that does these actions:

Click: Maximize
Middle Click: Maximize Vertically
Right Click: Maximize Horizontally
Click and Drag: Resize

Still I can't help but think that FVWM is just ugly. Maybe there is some way to make it look better?

I like your setup idea. And I agree about FVWM looking sparse. I haven't experimented enough with it to help you with the beautifying process, but I'm glad to see another person using window managers.

I'm thinking that I might try to create the titlebar and buttins in the GIMP.

Also, I have a button to the left to iconify, using the scroll whell on the titlebar rollst the window up/down, and right-clicking on the titlebar brings up the window ops menu.

I was reading a bit about Fluxbox and found that the Fluxbox Wiki gives a "403 - Forbidden" error when I try to see it.

I tried tabbed windows in Fluxbox, and I like it. The problem is that it's quite glitchy, also the "Slit" spans both monitors, instead of being centered on the main monitor, which is bad.

Is it possible to get tabbed windows in FVWM, with similar behavior to Fluxbox?

I just tried the Fluxbox wiki and got the same response. Hopefully it's something relatively minor, since there was some good info on there. If/When it comes back up, I'm going to mirror it on my computer.

As for tabs and the slit, I'm personally quite boring in my habits. That is, I don't use either. I'm so spartan, in fact, that for a terminal I use simple ol' xterm (well, uxterm for utf-8) with GNU screen. And for displaying system stats, etc, I use Conky.

Sorry that I can't be more help with FVWM, but it's been quite a while since I used it. When I did use it, I wasn't aware of a tabbing function, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

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Fluxbox wiki finally works!

In KWin (and probably some others I've yet to discover), drag + right click resizes. Far easier than a single button.

As for now I am liking PekWM, but I have a few issues with it:

• It does not remove the window border when maximized.
• PekWM's menus still have the window decor on them.
• The window ops menu relies too much on popup submenus.
• The main menu relies too much on submenus.
• It does not have a way for the window to be on all desktops.
• The window ops menu does not have a "Resize" item.
• The little program launcher does not always come up when I push Super+D.

The main problem I am having with FvwmTabs is that if I move a window over it, it gets inserted as a tab.