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newbiesforever 12-10-2008 11:23 PM

tip: don't buy from American eBay sellers using poor English
 
The various eBay auctions I'm looking at lead me to the conclusion: if a seller is in the United States but uses sloppy or broken English, don't risk buying from that seller. It could be someone falsely claiming (in violation of eBay rules) to be within the U.S. My Exhibit A is this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-Aluminum-SAT...1%7C240%3A1318 . And I reported at least one idiot claiming to be located in "Hong Kong, United States"--nice try.

I would appreciate not being lectured by anyone on how I shouldn't buy anything at eBay. Sorry, not interested. I find too many good deals and hard-to-find items there, especially when I'm not looking in categories where sellers tend to either sell junk or commit fraud, such as electronics.

trickykid 12-11-2008 09:22 AM

Most Americans can't spell or suck at grammar. I'd say go by their feedback before judging their spelling and grammar mistakes.

But yeah, use Craigslist and buy locally with cash. eBay is still a ripoff. I can find most of the things listed on there now for the same price and or cheaper with actual online merchants. The only nice thing about eBay is the really rare items, but then again, I'm trying to always get rid of junk, not accumulate more in my household.

Jeebizz 12-11-2008 09:51 AM

Most Americans (excluding us LQ users of course) probably don't even know where Hong Kong is. I've been there by the way, nice place.


I only bought one thing from EBay, and that was 5 years ago, when I was looking for a 3DO gaming console. I got it, and it worked. Still works too. Maybe now that I have more free time I should dust off that baby and relive the good ol` days of gaming. :p

gnashley 12-11-2008 10:57 AM

By the way, most Americans do not speak any English at all! If you go south of the border you'll find that people from the rest of the Americas get quickly offended when the tranlplanted Gringos refer to themselves as 'Americans' -Nostotros tambien somos americanos, lo sabe?

newbiesforever 12-11-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gnashley (Post 3371850)
By the way, most Americans do not speak any English at all! If you go south of the border you'll find that people from the rest of the Americas get quickly offended when the tranlplanted Gringos refer to themselves as 'Amercians' -Nostotros tambien somos americanos, lo sabe?

I don't bleed for them, thank you. People who were born south of the border, but live in my neighborhood, fly non-American flags in their yards, and tell us their home is somewhere other than America. Turnabout is fair play.

gnashley 12-11-2008 12:15 PM

"I don't bleed for them, thank you." No, they bleed for you... I dare say you'd flaunt your flag if you lived elsewhere -or maybe you wouldn't after all as that is pretty dangerous these days.

jailbait 12-11-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trickykid (Post 3371747)

Most Americans can't spell or suck at grammar. I'd say go by their feedback before judging their spelling and grammar mistakes.


I have noticed on LinuxQuestions that there is a distinct difference between the style of English mistakes made by a person speaking English as a second language poorly and an illiterate American.

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Steve Stites

newbiesforever 12-11-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jailbait (Post 3371946)
I have noticed on LinuxQuestions that there is a distinct difference between the style of English mistakes made by a person speaking English as a second language poorly and an illiterate American.

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Steve Stites

Absolutely. In other words, sloppy native English is not the same as Engrish or its variants. Engrish is what those questionable eBay auctions use.

newbiesforever 12-11-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gnashley (Post 3371920)
"I don't bleed for them, thank you." No, they bleed for you... I dare say you'd flaunt your flag if you lived elsewhere -or maybe you wouldn't after all as that is pretty dangerous these days.

Well, I won this dare--you're wrong about me.:D As far as I know, one should fly one's flag in one's own country, and flaunting one's flag in another country is rude. I hate offending people unnecessarily. Also, have you seen the Simpsons episode in which Homer tried to fly the English flag to welcome Lisa's English fiance (disregarding that he failed disastrously)? I approved of that.

ronlau9 12-11-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by newbiesforever (Post 3371951)
Absolutely. In other words, sloppy native English is not the same as Engrish or its variants. Engrish is what those questionable eBay auctions use.

Well I have a bad habit on regular basis I buy a text book.
One of those book has as title "Made in America"
Author a American who lives in the UK now
It is about the difference between American English and English UK
American English seems to have a lot of words that has a other language as origin.
So what is sloppy native English

newbiesforever 12-11-2008 02:23 PM

I refer to English spoken by natives of countries whose primary language is English.

pinniped 12-11-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ronlau9 (Post 3371983)
It is about the difference between American English and English UK
American English seems to have a lot of words that has a other language as origin.

Well, english as used in the UK also has thousands of foreign words which are also used in the USA. Many english words as spelled in the USA have the spelling commonly used in England over 200 years ago; for whatever reason the English decided it would be hip to insert a lot of extraneous 'u's into words. I don't know about the 'z' though - did the English purge it or did they never have it? We love it in the USA - it gives words something of a 'zing' - which you must admit sounds better than giving words a 'sing'.

brianL 12-11-2008 03:11 PM

That's what makes English such a rich language, the fact that it's borrowed words from so many languages. And, I hate to admit it, but pinniped is right about the superfluous "u" in a lot of words, not using it makes those words closer to the originals (Latin or Old French?). Not sure how the "s" v "z" thing happened.

nsp 12-12-2008 11:44 PM

As a Chinese with poor English, I feel this thread somewhat racist. What hurts me is not what you said, but what my countryman did. It has always been said that Chinese are not honest, or at least they tend to be not honest. As a Chinese I must say it is true, in some degree. But I still love my countryman. So, that really hurts.

Anyway, you are right. Be careful when you are doing business with Chinese.

ErV 12-13-2008 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nsp (Post 3373820)
As a Chinese with poor English, I feel this thread somewhat racist. What hurts me is not what you said, but what my countryman did. It has always been said that Chinese are not honest, or at least they tend to be not honest. As a Chinese I must say it is true, in some degree. But I still love my countryman. So, that really hurts.

Anyway, you are right. Be careful when you are doing business with Chinese.

OP was talking about people that say they are in USA in their profile and can't spell properly. The OP obviously meant that this might be sign of possible fraud. Don't see anything "racist" here. Read about "Hong-kong, USA" mentioned before.


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