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Old 04-28-2009, 07:37 AM   #1
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Thought to ponder: Windows Vista / Windows 7


Just a thought ...

Have we considered that MS and its vendors might be making more money by Vista's failure than it would have if the OS was well accepted? I mean, you buy a new computer with Vista installed. You don't like Vista, so what do you do? You either pay extra for the XP downgrade, or you clamor and pay for the Windows 7 upgrade when it is released.

If Vista was accepted, why downgrade or upgrade? I say MS is making money off their screwed up software. Could this be intentional?
 
Old 04-28-2009, 08:03 AM   #2
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Mmm, yes, possibly. Perhaps this belongs in the Conspiracy thread, eh?
 
Old 04-28-2009, 08:21 AM   #3
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MS is making money off their screwed up software.
This is news????

MS is not a technology company---they are mostly good at marketing.
 
Old 04-28-2009, 08:33 AM   #4
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Hmm, maybe Vista was an early beta of Windows 7? Make some money from the beta too..

No I doubt it. Vista has still cost microsoft more than it has earned from Vista and they are working fast to get Windows 7 out of the door, so when the time comes, I think they will still have lost money on Vista.

And while they struggle with their latest release. E.g. Ubuntu is comming out with a new release that some reviewers (like zdnet, not overtly Linux friendly), say is at least as good as Windows 7. I think it is only a few smaller issues left before larger companies can seriously start to consider rolling out Linux instead of Windows 7.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:14 AM   #5
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......I think it is only a few smaller issues left before larger companies can seriously start to consider rolling out Linux instead of Windows 7.Mons
The majority of users (maybe as high as 70%) could migrate to Linux right now......What stops them?:
  • They don't know that they have the option.
  • They have an entrenched IT support setup that thrives off of solving Windows problems.
  • A large vendor of SW products takes various actions to curtail competition and serious consideration of options.
  • The US government fails to do its job in policing industry (Oh, wait, the US got rid of that bunch---maybe now...........)
 
Old 04-28-2009, 11:38 AM   #6
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^ i havent heard as many people hating on win-vista for a while now and i think the people that were hating on it got cots version of it and were complaining their wifi card or something wasnt detected (the same type of people who complain that a linux install missed a peice of hardware).

since the last year, since people purchased oem versions of it, they dont complain because all of their hardware is working properly.

i expect the same complaints from windows 7, windows 2012, fedora 12, debian 6, mac os xx, solaris 42, ...

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Old 05-02-2009, 03:54 AM   #7
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Here's a big bone for the would-be conspiracy theorists:

When starting IE8 for the first time, you are asked to choose some basic settings and you have the option to use "express settings". In express settings, the default search provider is... GET THIS... Google and NOT Live Search!!

Now I sit back and wait for an entertaining explanation from the conspiracy buffs...
 
Old 05-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #8
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Windows 7 is just a windows vista with some tweaks, i guess.
 
Old 05-03-2009, 04:26 AM   #9
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Windows 7 is a waste of space.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2643
 
Old 05-04-2009, 07:51 AM   #10
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Windows 7 is just a windows vista with some tweaks, i guess.
they have worked on it, so it's more than prettier theme(s).

but, it's still only ever gonna be Vista sp2.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 08:23 AM   #11
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^ i havent heard as many people hating on win-vista for a while now and i think the people that were hating on it got cots version of it and were complaining their wifi card or something wasnt detected (the same type of people who complain that a linux install missed a peice of hardware).

since the last year, since people purchased oem versions of it, they dont complain because all of their hardware is working properly.

i expect the same complaints from windows 7, windows 2012, fedora 12, debian 6, mac os xx, solaris 42, ...
MS has worked on Vista, added new drivers, fixed bugs, etc. But also the OS has been out for a while, and people are just plain tired of complaining. Now they're just sitting back thinking "I'll just have to live with it".

And, yes. You will have the same sorts of problems with other OS's. But the timeframe for a major Linux fix appears to be much shorter than one for MS overall.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 10:34 AM   #12
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Hi,
Truth is, people don't want to be bothered with Linux. They have heard of Apple, but who knows anything about Linux ?
I work in a school and a coworker, teacher like me, some 15 years younger, did not know what Linux was.
I answered he was a new Scandinavian player hired by one of our top soccer teams.
Everybody uses Windows and cope with it.
Cheers
 
Old 05-04-2009, 12:58 PM   #13
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Hi,
Truth is, people don't want to be bothered with Linux. They have heard of Apple, but who knows anything about Linux ?
I work in a school and a coworker, teacher like me, some 15 years younger, did not know what Linux was.
I answered he was a new Scandinavian player hired by one of our top soccer teams.
Everybody uses Windows and cope with it.
Cheers
Not the truth as far as I'm concerned. People are just used to Windows, and are afraid to switch to another OS, whether it be OSX or Linux, a-la FUD. Or, they've never heard of Linux. Given the opportunity, some are willing to switch.

For instance, I just migrated my mother to Fedora from Windows on her new laptop. She didn't like what she's been hearing about Vista, and works on financial documents which she wants to keep safe. Until now she's kept her computers disconnected from the Internet for fear of infection or transgression. Now thanks to Linux, that fear is alleviated.
 
  


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