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Old 06-23-2003, 08:22 PM   #1
Robert Ab
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There is no war with the Establishment!


We the Newbies (one letter away from being Newfies!) are not starting a war with the Establishment...

I had a few personal disagreements with one or two moderators.
I am not starting a war on anyone!

Our Webmaster Jeremy has intervened and has solved the problems in a very fair, objective and neutral manner...

I have complete trust and faith in him

Any of you who does not appreciate a moderator's attitude, please take it to Jeremy as he has said on numerous occasions...

So there is nothing to "bich" about.

Its back to the Forum we all truly enjoy and appreciate...

End of the story...


Last edited by Robert Ab; 06-23-2003 at 08:29 PM.
 
Old 06-23-2003, 09:07 PM   #2
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Was this post really necessary?

You've said and added nothing new that all other members are already aware of from reading your other posts (that were all inappropiate and should have been brought up privately) and from the rules already established for this site.
 
Old 06-23-2003, 09:18 PM   #3
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Tricky Kid,

I have said what needed to be said...
 
Old 06-24-2003, 03:23 AM   #4
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And started a new thread to do it....

A new thread should be considered a "new conversation" which this isn't. If it were, you would not be addressing previous issues alone...

Cool
 
Old 06-24-2003, 03:32 AM   #5
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It is a new conversation... Mind you a conversation with not many posts lol but a new conversation nevertheless...

You guys have a very strict definition of a conversation I gather...

So you are the conversation police ...

Why? You are operating on a one subject per customer basis here?

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Besides I really don't see what the topic on "Why we haven't beaten Windows yet?" and this subject have in common...

If there is anything in common, please let me know... I really don't see any sort of similarity in purpose or in content...

But hey, it's only me!

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Bottom line is simple..

- Stop taking exception at everything
- Stop taking yourselves so seriously -this is just virtual reality after all-
- Stop trying to shut users up
- Stop wanting to lock subjects for no reason..
- Stop thinking you are in any way better than the rest of us just because you have the title moderator...
- Stop abusing your power...
- Stop thinking you are a big shot because you are a moderator
- Stop censoring people

Only intervene when R and R are actually being broken; like you were told to do when you were hired

Just do what Paul McCartney wrote: "let it be"

And everything will be just fine...


Last edited by Robert Ab; 06-24-2003 at 03:44 AM.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 03:43 AM   #6
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This is NOT a new conversation because who knows what "WAR" you are referring to? Only those who have read your other post. Which means it's part of that thread, not an entirely new one.

Instead of debating the topic(s) you wish to debate, it really seems that many of your topics are debating the validity of your questions.

You really should look into the links I've provided to you, as well as www.linux.org and read over the GNU GPL so that you can "debate" as you would like to. To form a debate, one has to have knowledge of the topic they are debating. You are free to ask questions, however your intent (as you expressed it) was to debate, however once you threw your cards on the table, it became more than slightly obvious that you came to the table with less than half a deck.



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Old 06-24-2003, 03:47 AM   #7
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Master C,

You are talking cards as if you were in a Western or something..

Come on Dude! Get real! You ain't in a John Wayne movie you are in a Linux forum...

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The bottomline is very simple.. Ganging up against a newbie is one of you guys' best past-time ..

You guys are more or less bored (aren't we all otherwise what would we be doing sitting down and typing stuff away in front of our screen?)

When you ganged up on me and tried to shut me up, you did not know you would open a can of worms... And you did open a can of worms..

And you were caught red-handed .. And the boss has lectured you.. And you hate me for that...

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I say, just behave.. You will bump into guys like me in the future..

So don't open too many cans of worms because eventually Jeremy will get fed-up and he will fire you all

Don't think it can happen? I tell you a story.. First thing Reagan did to end the air controllers' strike? He fired them all. They all got replaced overnight.. And guess what? There was not a single plane crash in the whole country..

Don't ever think you are irreplaceable... You are not...

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Kids like you bullying, we see everyday in high schools...

You are just acting like forum bullies and it is high time you changed your attitude..

You have to show respect for everyone on this board: Webmaster, newbies, establishment, fellow moderators etc. and that is the bottom line

That is all I have to say...

Last edited by Robert Ab; 06-24-2003 at 03:59 AM.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 03:59 AM   #8
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I'm talking cards as in your knowledge. You decided to start a debate on a subject you have absolutely no knowledge of, obviously. You then decided to start a new thread, and claim it was warranted when it clearly wasn't (several times even).

Just check the links I've provided you, learn a bit of Basic linux knowledge, even from searches here you could form quite a bit of General knowledge (such as Richard M Stallman is considered the grandfather of OpenSource) and then return to your "debate".

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Old 06-24-2003, 04:01 AM   #9
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You are assuming a lot of things without knowing what is really going on...

But then again, Master C, you have absolutely no right to tell people how they should prepare themselves to a debate.. Everyone comes the way they want.. It is a free world!

Besides, who are you God? Do you think you own the truth?

Your argument is zero..

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You are operating on a territory which is way beyond the one that was assigned to you... You are being zealous

Your role as a moderator is to make sure that R and R are respected

That is it...




Last edited by Robert Ab; 06-24-2003 at 04:08 AM.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:02 AM   #10
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Wow. Of all the things to come out of this, the last thing I expected to see was MasterC being called a bully.

This post was quoted in its entirety due to the fact that Robert Ab has chosen to edit most of his previous posts in for the sole purpose of appearing to be the virtuous user.

Quote:
Originally posted by Robert Ab
Master C,

You are talking cards as if you were in a Western or something..

Come on Dude! Get real! You ain't in a John Wayne movie you are in a Linux forum...

-----------------------------

The bottomline is very simple.. Ganging up against a newbie is one of you guys' best past-time ..

You guys are more or less bored (aren't we all otherwise what would we be doing sitting down and typing stuff away in front of our screen?)

When you ganged up on me and tried to shut me up, you did not know you would open a can of worms... And you did open a can of worms..

And you were caught red-handed .. And the boss has lectured you.. And you hate me for that...

-----------------------------

I say, just behave.. You will bump into guys like me in the future..

So don't open too many cans of worms because eventually Jeremy will get fed-up and he will fire you all

Don't think it can happen? I tell you a story.. First thing Reagan did to end the air controllers' strike? He fired them all. They all got replaced overnight.. And guess what? There was not a single plane crash in the whole country..

Don't ever think you are irreplaceable... You are not...

-------------------------

Kids like you bullying, we see everyday in high schools...

You are just acting like forum bullies and it is high time you changed your attitude..

You have to show respect for everyone on this board: Webmaster, newbies, establishment, fellow moderators etc. and that is the bottom line

That is all I have to say...
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:04 AM   #11
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I can understand the confusion, but let me clarify something for you:
I'm not a moderator. I'm just an average joe who comes to this board a lot to answer questions for those struggling with linux.

So my "bullying" you is nothing more than your sad perception that you are doing nothing wrong. I haven't begun to be rude or codescending to you, and I hope you realize that. I am doing my best to help you out with your debate, at least help you to make better judgements on your conclusions you draw from your "debate".

I am also trying to keep you from posting 18 threads all stringing out from your single thread. Your single thread should be all inclusive, and not need many others (such as this one) to build upon it. Issues within that thread should remain there. That includes the proclaiming of "No war with the Establishment".





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Old 06-24-2003, 04:11 AM   #12
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Thanks for your help Master C!

I do appreciate..

But you would help me more if you left me alone..... And if you let me do my thing...

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Or you would help me more if you could satisfy my curiosity and tell me if you are close to the ocean...

I hitch-hiked along the Western Coast in the fall of 1978 and it was a lot of fun (from Vancouver to San-Francisco).. I took a boat at one point to visit the Islands.. San Juan or something . I also picked apples in Yakima but I could not challenge Mexicans.. I also went to Kelso... And planted trees somewhere around...
Far-out state you are living in...

Bellingham is at a walking distance from the Canadian Border...

I recall I think Kelso-Longview.. I was walking .. A cop stopped me and told me where to get a voucher for a free room in a hotel... So I took up the voucher and was given a room.. Nice isn't it?

America is full of stories like that.. Great country!!!!!!!

Do you live close to the ocean? Do you live close to Microsoft's headquarters if I may ask?

I have just good memories of Washington State...

Last edited by Robert Ab; 06-24-2003 at 04:22 AM.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:12 AM   #13
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We do not gang up on newbies here.
The boss has not lectured us.
Fired? Anything is possible I suppose.
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:15 AM   #14
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Please do not order other members around like that. This is a forum, not a place for your ridiculous paranoid ramblings.

Quote:
Originally posted by Robert Ab
Thanks for your help Master C!

I do appreciate..

But you would help me more if you left me alone..... And if you let me do my thing...
 
Old 06-24-2003, 04:17 AM   #15
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Robert Ab, if I (or any who have attempted to help you as I have) left you alone, you would still be thinking Lindows is the almighty distro... Which it could be, it's a matter of opinion of course; however the point being that me (or those who are assisting you as I am) helping you is, well, helping you.

As for "doing your own thing" you sure are, but you shouldn't drag it across the forum with a new thread for each part of the discussion. A self contained extra long thread can sometimes be cumbersome, but more importantly, contains all the pertinent info relating to the topic.

Cool

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