The Faith & Religion mega Thread

Did someone just accuse me of not thinking "abstractly‽" (enjoy the show) LL Oh the nerve witch wouldn't exist without your "god" and none other! We*ve said it before you are atheist just like we* but to a lesser degree OR you'll believe anything so drink the fish.

It's not a "creature" that's always existed, the only things to have always existed are time and endless fields coming and going. AND you cannot prove that wrong, where I can prove you disbelieve in 100's of other "gods!" Or, maybe love koolaid.

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time did not exist until man decide to keep track of the passing of it because he knows he cannot by any means on his own live for an eternity so he decided to make a means to keep track of how long things have been, and still does not know how long things will be so he devised a manes to measure the passing of his life and the things in it.

Originally Posted by BW-userx time did not exist until man decide to keep track of the passing of it because he knows he cannot by any means on his own live for an eternity so he decided to make a means to keep track of how long things have been, and still does not know how long things will be so he devised a manes to measure the passing of his life and the things in it.

A seed or the expansion of a solar system keeps time are we arrogant because we die or have not evolved past fearing it...

@ BW-userx - <sigh> Yeah the odds weren't good that you, or anyone so locked down, would get it, but I tried. Now I'm done with trying to converse with you as it's obvious you will just go on quoting scripture from on high, misunderstanding and insulting me, while remaining a One Way Street and never stepping out of your comfort zone even to consider for a moment anything you haven't already decided.

We are all one so life is not fair unless you view objectively in this way.. Here's a quote from Nikola Tesla.. "When we speak of man, we have a conception of humanity as a whole, and before applying scientific methods to the investigation of his movement we must accept this as a physical fact. But can anyone doubt to-day that all the millions of individuals and all the innumerable types and characters constitute an entity, a unit? Though free to think and act, we are held together, like the stars in the firmament, with ties inseparable. These ties cannot be seen, but we can feel them. I cut myself in the finger, and it pains me: this finger is a part of me. I see a friend hurt, and it hurts me, too: my friend and I are one. And now I see stricken down an enemy, a lump of matter which, of all the lumps of matter in the universe, I care least for, and it still grieves me. Does this not prove that each of us is only part of a whole?
For ages this idea has been proclaimed in the consummately wise teachings of religion, probably not alone as a means of insuring peace and harmony among men, but as a deeply founded truth. The Buddhist expresses it in one way, the Christian in another, but both say the same: We are all one. Metaphysical proofs are, however, not the only ones which we are able to bring forth in support of this idea. Science, too, recognizes this connectedness of separate individuals, though not quite in the same sense as it admits that the suns, planets, and moons of a constellation are one body, and there can be no doubt that it will be experimentally confirmed in times to come, when our means and methods for investigating psychical and other states and phenomena shall have been brought to great perfection. Still more: this one human being lives on and on. The individual is ephemeral, races and nations come and pass away, but man remains. Therein lies the profound difference between the individual and the whole."

Also James Mitrose, founder of Kosho Ryu Kenpo (a martial art that gave birth to many other martial arts) who believed in true self-defense (only defensive strikes e.g. using the enemy's strikes against himself) also believed were all one, and said "every time you strike an adversary focus the power of your strikes not on him but the evil within him, as he's part of you so you're really fighting the sin within yourself." or something to that extent..

Originally Posted by enorbet @ BW-userx - <sigh> Yeah the odds weren't good that you, or anyone so locked down, would get it, but I tried. Now I'm done with trying to converse with you as it's obvious you will just go on quoting scripture from on high, misunderstanding and insulting me, while remaining a One Way Street and never stepping out of your comfort zone even to consider for a moment anything you haven't already decided.

starting what I see in you, if you find that insulting I'd hate to see what you'd say about a psychologist. or someone that can clearly see that you are clumping everything into one big pot then making your conclusion on it only because someone else tagged it - Religion. before even really dissecting it and seeing the differences in them all that you over generalized on.

even that part where you sate that you have to test everything until it makes sense to you before you believe it. Science has yet to even make sense of its own theories on evolution and yet here you are believing in what?

whatever have I seen in you by your words?


you draw conclusions about me by what you have read me write and commented on them. when I do the same you make clam it is me insulting you.


by you own ways cannot I do the same about you?
quoting scripture

when you yourself quote what to try and prove your belief system?

you see what I do as what, and yet you do the same using different material as if to say it is ok for you do do but not me. I find that an interesting personality trait.


misunderstanding and insulting me,

I do not misunderstand you that is a statement of you projecting and then stating how you see yourself.

it is a statement of self awareness that you are having a hard time accepting so you project it instead.


8 years of psychology I hardly think I do not understand you.

Originally Posted by justmy2cents We are all one so life is not fair unless you view objectively in this way.. Here's a quote from Nikola Tesla.. "When we speak of man, we have a conception of humanity as a whole, and before applying scientific methods to the investigation of his movement we must accept this as a physical fact. But can anyone doubt to-day that all the millions of individuals and all the innumerable types and characters constitute an entity, a unit? Though free to think and act, we are held together, like the stars in the firmament, with ties inseparable. These ties cannot be seen, but we can feel them. I cut myself in the finger, and it pains me: this finger is a part of me. I see a friend hurt, and it hurts me, too: my friend and I are one.

a social path would not see it that way. if he sees someone else gets hurt he does not hurt along with him.

And now I see stricken down an enemy, a lump of matter which, of all the lumps of matter in the universe, I care least for, and it still grieves me. Does this not prove that each of us is only part of a whole?

bird of a feather flock together, even though we are all human ones that think alike want others to think like them if not then they go and find that that do and flock with them. thus separation happens.

For ages this idea has been proclaimed in the consummately wise teachings of religion, probably not alone as a means of insuring peace and harmony among men, but as a deeply founded truth. The Buddhist expresses it in one way, the Christian in another, but both say the same: We are all one.

yet still separate at the same time because the beliefs they hold are different. therefore the Buddhist is not the same as a christian outside of the flesh he is in cased in. for it is what comes out of man that defines him not what holds his guts in.

Metaphysical proofs are, however, not the only ones which we are able to bring forth in support of this idea. Science, too, recognizes this connectedness of separate individuals, though not quite in the same sense as it admits that the suns, planets, and moons of a constellation are one body, and there can be no doubt that it will be experimentally confirmed in times to come, when our means and methods for investigating psychical and other states and phenomena shall have been brought to great perfection.

Still more: this one human being lives on and on.

what human is that that can gain immortality that no other can?

The individual is ephemeral, races and nations come and pass away, but man remains. Therein lies the profound difference between the individual and the whole."

what is that proving?

that is like saying, things happen for a reason.

Also James Mitrose, founder of Kosho Ryu Kenpo (a martial art that gave birth to many other martial arts) who believed in true self-defense (only defensive strikes e.g. using the enemy's strikes against himself) also believed were all one, and said "every time you strike an adversary focus the power of your strikes not on him but the evil within him, as he's part of you so you're really fighting the sin within yourself." or something to that extent..

that is a statement of a fool. ok let put it in other words,

Just beat the evil out of him because it is actually the evil within yourself you are beating out of him.

so the causes and effect is as such, fight evil with evil and evil will persist and never go away.
that is an eye for an eye way of thinking.

God said what?
You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; Should anyone press you into service for one mile,* go with him for two miles. Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow. “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you at you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors* do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect,* just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

turn your cheek,

If only we could all be 1. Perhaps where religions not allowed can\has help\ed, we'd all agree "one" way or another: http://www.gettingsmart.com/2013/04/...al-or-harmful/

BW-userx - "8 years of psychology I hardly think I do not understand you."

BW-userx - "a social path would not see it that way. if he sees someone else gets hurt he does not hurt along with him."

Most first year High School students know the difference between "social path" and "sociopath". This is obviously not a mere typo. This casts grave doubts on BW-userx's truthfulness and education which by extension casts it on everything he writes. This reminds me of OregonJim. This is just one example of why I choose not to play this game as well. It can serve no purpose so I am putting BW-userx on "Ignore".

Originally Posted by enorbet BW-userx - "8 years of psychology I hardly think I do not understand you." BW-userx - "a social path would not see it that way. if he sees someone else gets hurt he does not hurt along with him." Most first year High School students know the difference between "social path" and "sociopath". This is obviously not a mere typo. This casts grave doubts on BW-userx's truthfulness and education which by extension casts it on everything he writes. This reminds me of OregonJim. This is just one example of why I choose not to play this game as well. It can serve no purpose so I am putting BW-userx on "Ignore".

I see how you pick out others faults and then draw conclusions by them without even investigating it -- you just prejudge by your own thoughts. not on a truth, Then you make sure you tell the world of your findings to show how others, me in this instance, as not trustworthy.

But when someone points out your faults or tries to show you your errors in thinking you see that as an insult to your person, or a personal attack against you. very interesting.

your line of thought is,

This is obviously not a mere typo. therefore he cannot be trusted.

then you give example to substantiate your bogus finding the make sure you tell the world of untrustworthiness by your standards. All based no solid evidence as to why I wrote it like that.

you just believe the lie you told yourself instead of actually finding out the truth. You willfully lied to yourself and accepted it then acted on it by concluding that I cannot be trusted all based of a term that was not spelled properly.

social path is just a lazy way of me writing sociopath it does not dismiss the symptoms. http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

I do find it very interesting how you pick that out but when you talk of religions you put them all in the same bowl to draw your conclusions on Religion as a whole.

You only nit pick when it suits you, and not when it actually matters.

Originally Posted by BW-userx a social path would not see it that way. if he sees someone else gets hurt he does not hurt along with him.

Nevertheless it is my belief that, that "social path" plays a role in the grand scheme of things... God has plans for us all and works in mysterious ways for the benefit of us all (as Robert Palmer put it "it takes every kind of people to make the world go round").. I think the end goal is to treat each other like brothers and sisters so we may ascend to something higher.. We cant be here for not reason this place is not for fun, we're here to learn something fundamental, in order to grow and be better versions of ourselves (I think that "something" is oneness).

bird of a feather flock together, even though we are all human ones that think alike want others to think like them if not then they go and find that that do and flock with them. thus separation happens.

Life is a process, it may take many many years for man to realize that this not the way they should think. That reminds me of the saying that if an alien invasion were to occur we would unite together like never before, and that's probably very true..

yet still separate at the same time because the beliefs they hold are different. therefore the Buddhist is not the same as a christian outside of the flesh he is in cased in. for it is what comes out of man that defines him not what holds his guts in.

Both religions teach very import lessons on life that the other does not, and thus together form a bond of to the complete cup of the glass that's half full...

what human is that that can gain immortality that no other can?

The soul of a human can be immortal, I mean you cant destroy energy can you?

what is that proving? that is like saying, things happen for a reason.

Perhaps he's implying that races and nations are abstract ideas, and the fundamental idea that truly matters in humanity as a whole..[/QUOTE]

that is a statement of a fool. ok let put it in other words, Just beat the evil out of him because it is actually the evil within yourself you are beating out of him. so the causes and effect is as such, fight evil with evil and evil will persist and never go away. that is an eye for an eye way of thinking. God said what? You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; Should anyone press you into service for one mile,* go with him for two miles. Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow. “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you at you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors* do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect,* just as your heavenly Father is perfect. turn your cheek,

He never sought out to fight anyone. He was drafted in Japan during WW2, and he refused to fight for the Japanese and instead joined the U.S. as a medic .. Regardless of why that war started, his belief was to just help other people (he could cared less about the war).. I personally dont agree with turning a cheek, and that reminds me of the quote from the movie Gladiator "Ultimately, we're all dead men. Sadly, we cannot choose how but, what we can decide is how we meet that end, in order that we are remembered, as men.".. But like Mr.Palmer said, it takes every kind of people..

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god has plans for us all and works in mysterious

"god" unlike thought is people made that's why it seems so "mysterious" "it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again" PICK A GOD!

One(1) "god" is a contradiction... don't think it know it, we seem smart‽

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