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Old 09-18-2008, 06:26 PM   #646
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I figured that that would apply to a couple of people. But the poll itself is anonymous, so...

But you realize that posting this raises curiosity... it's satanism, isn't it? I know I should have added that. But firm-believer applies to you also.
I can't possibly speak for pixellany, but I will ask you a question: why do you think there is only belief in god, not belief in god, or belief in satan. He could be a druid. He could believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Or Zeus. Or any of an infinity of other gods/deities that he may have made up himself; after all, all the deities we've heard of to this point were made up by someone.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 06:50 PM   #647
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I don't know what druids believe. The idea was rather to get a categorization for believe or non believe in deities... all faiths are welcome, no matter how outdated or obscure.
I actually met real life satanists once - that is probably not so accurate, maybe druids would be correct... way creepier than christians... I made a remark saying "you can say what you want about the catholic church, at least they got rid of all the witches; which really got us started on the wrong foot. So I personally don't care for satanists, but nobody should feel left out.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 07:16 PM   #648
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Could you requestion that phrase?
Almost had me fooled there...you quiet a debater aint you?

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Depends what you mean by "meaning"
Like is there substance to purpose? What is the use of having meaning towards a purpose? Is it based on free will or is there some pre-destined path we follow?
 
Old 09-18-2008, 10:37 PM   #649
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Hey can anyone explain in very simple words what the purpose of meaning is?
Purpose of meaning? Do you mean the meaning of life? If you need a purpose, then you need a God. The closest I've found to the meaning of life is procreation. But, I'm not sure if the egg is the chicken's way of making more chickens, or if the chicken is the egg's way of making more eggs. You'd probably also need a God for that one, too. Me, I just enjoy the ride. It's also simpler.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 10:55 PM   #650
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Quakeboy02, this is almost leaning towards a metaphysical angle. Honestly thinking of metaphysics gives me a headache and i always question what do metaphysicists hope to achieve in the end anyway? I was watching some documentary on the History channel about what they referred to as "The Big Rip/Reap" which is a counter to "The Big Bang". Something to the effect of the sun burning out and exploding shattering the galaxy into nothing but star-dust in about a couple billion years to come(ill be a sedimentary rock by then ). Now connecting all this hypotheses and ideologies does this exist only in our/their minds or is it an element of someone's healthy imagination?
 
Old 09-18-2008, 11:02 PM   #651
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Quakeboy02, this is almost leaning towards a metaphysical angle.
Nope, not metaphysical. If you don't need a meaning for life, then you don't need a God to supply that meaning. The converse is also true. Pretty simple, really.

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I was watching some documentary on the History channel about what they referred to as "The Big Rip/Reap" which is a counter to "The Big Bang". Something to the effect of the sun burning out and exploding shattering the galaxy into nothing but star-dust in about a couple billion years to come(ill be a sedimentary rock by then ). Now connecting all this hypotheses and ideologies does this exist only in our/their minds or is it an element of someone's healthy imagination?
I didn't see that, but when our sun dies, it will turn into a red giant and engulf at least out to the orbit of the earth. I believe that after that it turns into a white dwarf, but I'd have to look it up. There's plenty of evidence about the lifecycle of stars, so there's not much question about this. However, I won't be around, so meh.
 
Old 09-19-2008, 07:53 AM   #652
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I didn't see that, but when our sun dies, it will turn into a red giant and engulf at least out to the orbit of the earth. I believe that after that it turns into a white dwarf, but I'd have to look it up.
The extent of the sun's "atmosphere" is always good for a flame war. But at any rate, in the red giant phase, none of the planets we know of in our solar system will survive; the hot gases from the sun will encompass all the planets and the ice planets will certainly be vaporized. I can't recall what the predicted temperatures around the earth would be - far too hot for any life forms at any rate.

Our sun is expected to become a white dwarf - no big bang (supernova) for us.
 
Old 09-19-2008, 11:17 AM   #653
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It's the quest for the answer that brings meaning to life. The answer is 42.

How much of today's world would exist if the US had not aimed for the moon and launched the 'space race'?

How much of today's world would exist if the ancient Egyptians had not built bigger/better pyramids? Faster/lighter chariots? Stronger, more powerful bows?

How much of today's world would exist if the Phoenicians had not built bigger and better boats? We know they circum-navigated Africa and traded with Brittain. But interestingly, plants from the Americas were found in ancient Egyptian mummies. Who went there?

It's the endeavor, not the question, nor the answer that brings meaning to life!
 
Old 09-21-2008, 11:19 AM   #654
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Yeah. Me too.

Why, I remember when the dinosaurs were developing and spreading over the globe. There were even some that were showing signs of intelligence. Then that meteor hit and wiped them out.

Then I watched the mammals expand and flourish...

Ah, yes. Those were the days...
Good one.
ya, but I am serious.
I have worked with DNA man, and I bet you haven't.
I cannot explain it to you because without a first hand observation you will never believe.

BTW, if your statement is true...
Are you GOD??!!?
The FLOSS community will go crazy !!! GOD is a Geek !!!
And little Bill is just a test of our faith.. . . .
 
Old 09-21-2008, 05:31 PM   #655
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I completely forgot about this upcoming movie! Religious or not, I think this is a MUST see.

Bill Maher is awesome. So is the trailer to this movie.

http://www.lionsgate.com/religulous/
 
Old 09-21-2008, 05:57 PM   #656
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The Catholics are already up in arms about it.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 06:00 PM   #657
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Meh.... They get up in arms with everything.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 06:03 PM   #658
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They do seem to be protesting more. I blame that Da Vinci Code.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 06:14 PM   #659
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If they had a shred of scientific evidence to back up their claims then their "protesting" would actually be relevant. Anyways, Religious looks like a funny movie. Hopefully its not as disturbing like Jesus Camp.
 
Old 09-21-2008, 06:19 PM   #660
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Oh wow. I actually saw Jesus Camp. That one lady in the movie just blew my mind. She wanted to have kids here 'be as religious as those kids in Pakistan'. I nearly spit up my drink when I heard that, (she wants kids here to train as suicide bombers?) then I just couldn't watch the rest of that rubbish, but I also remember how there was such an uproar in that movie about Harry Potter, fsck these people are so fscking stupid and annoying. It is scary that they are in the majority, and we have a president in step with them.

Then again, if you watched the religulous trailer. "You don't need a high I.Q. to be in the US senate." Really really scary.
 
  


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