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Old 02-07-2014, 08:53 PM   #4726
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Hmm isn't that the "new Bible" which was written in th 1500s ?which version is the supposed real version the old or the new testiment the old was translated from Hebbrew but actully was taken from even older text , the new testiment I think is fom Greek translation in either case they have been translated and rewrittien so tha tthey fit the times there probably ios thousands of different versions of the bible so to quaot some nook capter is totally meaningless because I have know clue asto whic qoute you mean .
say a few thousandyears from now someome might find a dvd of rambo and think that it is truth and buold a full religion on the movie.
 
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I dislike that it is so intertwined in state and government ++, people follow!

How about going to an alcoholics anonymous (aa) meeting if you need cheep\free psychological help dealing with substance abuse they say "ignore the religious part if you're not" but it's still there, controlling; furthermore more they tell you you're diseased and can't possibly be fixed unless blind faith and not self-control... so, my question is why don't people at overeaters anonymous (oa) have to starve themselves to death?

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Old 02-09-2014, 08:45 AM   #4728
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{...}say a few thousandyears from now someome might find a dvd of rambo and think that it is truth and buold a full religion on the movie.
Song lyrics also contain lot of useful info...like for example: Put too much faith in what you see aka science and it will cost ya.

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:11 AM   #4729
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Science does not have faith, unfortunately in this imperfect world many people do.

Edit\add: I'd like to see a poll (with truthful results) asking who buys lottery tickets or gambles and if there religious or not? Bingo!

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:59 AM   #4730
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know mmattter where you live religion has some type of influence on you it is totally imbbeded into society, even the law has religious . in some courts the ymake you swear on the Bible, that is totally rediculas what is the point of that ? for someone like myself that doesn't believe in the first place what is going to happen to me if I lie if a bolt of lightning going to strike me dead?
the is idolism all of the Bible and even forms of mild porn in I thing psalms , and if I remember correctly on of the story tellers that was suposedly talking about the future they ( some philosophers) fgure that he was just talking in code because if he actually said what he meant to say he would have been put to death so he talke d in code so that his information could be pased to others, but then again who knows wha twas really said with loss of translation and time and culural time and cultural differences and the way expressions from then with the language difference compaired to now.
( I really need a spell checked on my web browser lol)
 
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( I really need a spell checked on my web browser lol)
If you use Firefox: Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Check my spelling as I type.
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:35 AM   #4732
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"The General who in a hundred battles is always victorious is not as
great as the one who achieves his objectives without fighting."
-- Sun Tzu
(...)

Edit\add: Pay attention to s5 of The Fringe or be dammed!

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:41 PM   #4733
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"assign meaning to things without knowing because it's reassuring"

P.s: Winmark\any could be your "god..."

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Old 02-10-2014, 11:47 PM   #4734
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if you believe in (new $chool) antidepre$$ant$ are you religiou$?
 
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Hmm isn't that the "new Bible" which was written in th 1500s? Which version is the supposed real version: the old or the new testament? The old was translated from Hebrew but actully was taken from even older text; the new testament I think is fom Greek translation. In either case they have been translated and rewrittien so that they fit the times. There probably are thousands of different versions of the bible so to quote some book/chapter is totally meaningless because I have no clue as to which quote you mean.

Say a few thousand years from now someome might find a dvd of Rambo and think that it is truth and build a full religion on the movie.
Just as long as they don't find a DVD of Chuck Norris ...

Seriously, the answer to your comment is, "yes." There are many versions of these texts, of course, and there are also many texts which various "councils" decided were not "canonical." Unfortunately many ancient libraries were destroyed along the way. So it goes. These are very old books, many of which originated from non-written verbal traditions that were passed by memorization from father to son. As the books came to be of significant religious significance, we know that they have been edited and redacted many, many times. This, simply, is what they are. This is what we [know that we] are working with here. It's a very old source, to begin with, and people have been sticking their inky fingers into it ever since.

Therefore, I always suggest that it's not a good idea to try to stake any position upon a particular passage in a particular book, let alone a particular version of it. I think that you are very-simply putting too much "authoritative credence" into these texts than their known provenance deserves. There is nothing "infallable" about them. (They're full of errors and inconsistencies.) They weren't transmitted down through the ages accompanied by digital error-correcting codes.

But there is a message sweeping grandly through all of them. (And, for that matter, through similar books in other religious traditions.)

So, don't just stare at a square-inch of bark, having located it by "chapters" and "verses" that also were added-on. Look instead at the forest. Don't try to lean [too hard ...] upon your own understanding, because, the more "certain" you become, the more likely you might be to lead yourself astray chasing some white rabbit or another. God speaks, as they say, "with a voice like many waters," as well as "a still, small voice." In the cool of the evening, at the close of the day ... selah. "My sheep know my voice, and a stranger's voice they will not follow."

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You just gave me an idea for a search: "wikipedia's most changed pages," TLTR; (do more people like the bible or Wikipedia LOL)
looks like #18 in the first link under mostly technicalities and acts of ... physics ... also all or R in the second link and the lists will go on!
"Hope" I did not give bluegospel any ideas... JK.

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Arcane, TB0ne is referring to the fact that Bluegospel once announced that he would stop participating in these threads.
Who here is not a Hippocratic (oops you know my spelling) hypocrite?!

Add: what happens if they outlaw your "antidepressants" + + would you use other drugs, legal or non?
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Should we have a death penalty circling the idea that killing (or vengeance) is OK in some ways, in turn keeping the root problems that lead back to "needing" capital murder? (&c...)

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Old 02-14-2014, 11:42 AM   #4737
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{...}Don't support stupidity but it already exists!
It becomes harder to fight it when you're surrounded by it each day. Some people just don't have "spark of intelligence".
 
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I guess that was a dumb statement to begin with? Stupidity needs more support to fix it...
http://www.engines4ed.org/hyperbook/...r-outline.html
https://www.facebook.com/wethinkthrice

P.s. the book is not bias.
 
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{...}P.s. the book is not bias.
And here we arrive at same problem. How do you know your book is true without BIAS? It is also book. In a same matter i can claim that Matrix movie, for example, is documentary with secret meanings => http://thematrix101.com
 
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Sorry, I was referring to the smileys book. People are people, the times r the ⚛⌚⌛⚖™...

☕auuu

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