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Old 09-21-2013, 02:51 PM   #4561
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Wonder who started sterotypes in religion. Like recently again somebody started to say that "black" man is superior to "white" while others say vice versa. Just lol. Who creates these silly generalizations and BS theories?
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Just to generalize: you have to go to (actual) school to be a scientist, teacher, doctor,,, but to be religious\spiritualónope.
This is so wrong..school doesn't make great proffesion members - they do it themselves while school just provides assistance and tools but if they will be without motivation, inner potential, school won't help. Real deal comes from school of life not building from childhood. Also even popes need to go to special study school with stuff. Unless you have money. If you have money - it is pretty much solution to every problem in money based society.. :/
 
Old 09-21-2013, 05:20 PM   #4562
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(of course not religious or any people in general)

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... Real deal comes from school of life not building from childhood. ...
A smart society forces kids to school(to evolve), if raised in a box and taught everything backwards kids will believe it; I know guns\death-penalties donít keep us safe but circular logic exists (like stupidity\racism and vengeance) because earth is the box!
 
Old 09-21-2013, 07:45 PM   #4563
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A smart society forces kids to school(to evolve), if raised in a box and taught everything backwards kids will believe it; I know guns\death-penalties donít keep us safe but circular logic exists (like stupidity\racism and vengeance) because earth is the box!
O rly..naah! Watch this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYhtFEQ07A <-
 
Old 09-21-2013, 08:07 PM   #4564
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We could not do <B>this</B> without all the good\bad leading us here!

And will eventually do away with the bad(.) (always be "decomposition" tho even for future humans(?))

How many religions are there now vs ever? LOL "unimaginable tracks of time" unlike human history

If we use up all earths resources would we die out? No, we'd make our own ways.

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Old 09-22-2013, 11:53 AM   #4565
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Religion\Human-Evolution affects the outcome of silly words\perception (and theories) like "universe" for example braking down to mean 'one turned' or 'I turn' (religion would say 'gods turn') or even 'everything turns' as if we are all knowing! So in my view religion is because "we" refuse to except infinity as the grand scheme of it all.

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Old 09-23-2013, 04:00 AM   #4566
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Religion\Human-Evolution affects the outcome of silly words\perception (and theories) like "universe" for example braking down to mean 'one turned' or 'I turn' (religion would say 'gods turn') or even 'everything turns' as if we are all knowing! So in my view religion is because "we" refuse to except infinity as the grand scheme of all.
This is probably because of priest misteaching shenanigans like they know better.
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"I believe in God; I just don't trust anyone who works for him." Author Unknown
Even in movies about God it is clearly mentioned that we should stop worry so much about afterlife and start live current life!
 
Old 09-23-2013, 04:04 PM   #4567
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So in my view religion is because "we" refuse to except infinity as the grand scheme of all.

"Religion is a crutch for those who are unable to stand up to the unknown without help" ~ Heinlein
 
Old 09-23-2013, 04:34 PM   #4568
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"Religion is a crutch for those who are unable to stand up to the unknown without help" ~ Heinlein
Im a huge heinlein fan and i hate to say it but he is wrong here. Many buddhist meditation practices are tools for those who want to investigate the unknown and who arent silly or immature enough to believe that its all "out there".

This thread seems mostly about theist religion and thats not all of religion. Some religions are centered on practice. Zen/chan buddhism for instance where knowledge of ones true state is stressed over belief.

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Old 09-23-2013, 04:49 PM   #4569
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:50 PM   #4570
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i love that shirt
 
Old 09-25-2013, 03:02 PM   #4571
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Watch this. I lolled..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnXgOL8NVFs
why can't they give one book to analyze? But noo..they even make similar books to confuse people even more..BS or some sort of conspiracy again!

P.S.No i don't have memory problems. I know i posted supportive stuff but i also posted nonsupportive stuff even before so in discussions you can switch sides to look at problems from different point of view to gain even deeper clarity. Doesn't cancel anything.

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Old 09-25-2013, 03:12 PM   #4572
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book burning is bad but hides "truth"

learning improperly from books that should be burned(?) is another story

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Old 09-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #4573
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This is the full quote jamison, I fluffed it a bit doing it from memory -

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"History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it."

~ Robert Heinlein, Notebooks of Lazarus Long
 
Old 09-27-2013, 08:58 PM   #4574
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Thanks Pete, Robert Heinlein rocks.

Not that I'm flip flopping either but my, (slightly less) agnostic than atheist, side finds this interesting: Gaiam TV Wisdom Teachings - Introduction to Source Field - Part 1; "solving" "theories" until of course "law" is unsolved; In other words "assuming the initial point"↻↻↻ (or shaking trees @('.')@ until )

Belief.
/biˈlēf/
noun: belief; plural noun: beliefs
  1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
    "his belief in the value of hard work"
    something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion or conviction.
    "contrary to popular belief, Aramaic is a living language"
    synonyms: opinion, view, conviction, judgment, thinking, way of thinking, idea, impression, theory, conclusion, notion More"it's my belief that age is irrelevant"
    a religious conviction.
    "Christian beliefs"
    synonyms: ideology, principle, ethic, tenet, canon; Moredoctrine, teaching, dogma, article of faith, creed, credo
    "traditional beliefs"
  2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.
    "a belief in democratic politics"
    synonyms: faith, trust, reliance, confidence, credence More...

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #4575
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Not that I'm flip flopping either but my, slightly less agnostic than atheist, side finds this as interesting: Gaiam TV Wisdom Teachings - Introduction to Source Field - Part 1 "solving" "theories;" until of course "law" is unsolved; In other words "assuming the initial point"↻↻↻ (or shaking trees @('.')@ until )
I'm sorry, but I am and have always had serious problems understanding nearly anything you post. You've been here long enough that I know you're not, but no offense, you post like a 12 year old girl texting her friends. I bet you'd get a lot more feedback and support if you dropped the nonsensical symbols and emoticons and replaced them with coherent thoughts and complete sentences.

I don't know, maybe it's just me...

Just my $.02

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