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Old 08-14-2013, 12:33 AM   #4471
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"unimaginable tracts of time is the key"
 
Old 08-14-2013, 06:14 AM   #4472
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The universe is a tiny place and our corner is the oldest part. There's no way anything bigger and smarter than man could exist anywhere within it. Galileo was just improving on the Pope's Flat Earth Law the way Einstein's little theory improved on Newton's Law of Gravity. When a man with authority deems something law the discussion is over. Everything is a privileged granted by earthly authorities, not a God-given inalienable right.

Now back to important matter's of remaining vigilant in case al-Qaeda in Outer Space lands and little green al-Qaeda terrorists from Mars pop out. If Ezekiel lived today he'd be put in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket.

All hail the fatherland, er, motherland, uh, homeland, yeah, yeah, homeland, that's it!
 
Old 08-14-2013, 09:10 AM   #4473
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The universe is a tiny place and our corner is the oldest part.
Huh? How can one corner of the universe be older than another?
 
Old 08-14-2013, 09:15 AM   #4474
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The universe is a tiny place and our corner is the oldest part. There's no way anything bigger and smarter than man could exist anywhere within it.
Sarcasm?
 
Old 08-14-2013, 09:53 AM   #4475
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This scene from an old sci-fi show pretty much sums up this entire topic for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylAsZQyOBMk
 
Old 08-15-2013, 06:53 PM   #4476
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Old? Well I guess, LL

Loved it until the end when he had to dumb it down for those who must have "truth"++.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 04:24 PM   #4477
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Old? Well I guess, LL

Loved it until the end when he had to dumb it down for those who must have "truth"++.
It's a 20 year old show, so I think I can get away with calling it 'old'.


I think the point of that last bit was Straczynski commenting on the futility of trying to impart wisdom to some people G'kar didn't so much "dumb it down" as give up and just tell them what they wanted to hear. Doc Franklin's shrug in sympathy at the end was a nice touch I thought. Anyway, I've always liked that scene.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 09:46 AM   #4478
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So you like conspiracies? Here is one more - crucifixion was fraud and JC was actually "black" not "white" person(i am not racist just using words everyone can understand!)..why they search for holy book characters if they don't exist? Something is not clean..
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This scene from an old sci-fi show pretty much sums up this entire topic for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylAsZQyOBMk
But someone did write those books we can't even translate it yet with all our modern technology!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgALlSPlZC8
Same goes for ancient construction sites around Earth! Someone did it with method noone wants everyone to know since it will shake everything we know!
 
Old 08-17-2013, 11:01 AM   #4479
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But someone did write those books we can't even translate it yet with all our modern technology!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgALlSPlZC8
Same goes for ancient construction sites around Earth! Someone did it with method noone wants everyone to know since it will shake everything we know!
I don't know why you quoted me. Your comment doesn't seem to be related to anything in my post or the video it links to.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #4480
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Concerning "faith" or "non-faith", I am an ignostic[sic] (theological noncognitivist, if you prefer) as well as an apatheist.
jdk (not java)
 
Old 08-17-2013, 02:15 PM   #4481
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So you like conspiracies? Here is one more - crucifixion was fraud and JC was actually "black" not "white" person(i am not racist just using words everyone can understand!)..why they search for holy book characters if they don't exist? Something is not clean..
I don't believe in crazy al-Qaeda conspiracy theories. People with authority have been trying to control the masses thorugh lies and deception since, well, before Jesus was born. And I'm sure Jesus was a real Semite, as was Abraham, so they looked like Iraqis not like German Jews.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3014947.html

EDIT: Man, that reminded me of a Deek Jackson skit... if you think blaming Bin Laden for demolishing three skyscrapers was ingenious... Quetzalcoatl had them lining up for open heart surgery with no anesthetic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkCw8_rIVw LOL

It's just the same old lying, thieving, scumbags who want to rule the Earth.

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Old 08-17-2013, 05:37 PM   #4482
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You know what really bugs me... if I were to say the Queen of England adopted Christianity just to assert her power and put a cross next to the Blarney Stone, nobody would be offended. I could even say the new Pope has orgies with his alter boys and most people would laugh. But suggesting the Rothschild bankers of Germany adopted Judaism just so they could claim to be God's chosen banksters is somehow offensive.

Goldman Sachs thinks it's doing God's work too: http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/...ing-gods-work/ seriously..
 
Old 08-18-2013, 01:13 AM   #4483
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As always words are make believe so [off topic]

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It's a 20 year old show, so I think I can get away with calling it 'old'.
But not me, LL
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I think the point of that last bit was Straczynski commenting on the futility of trying to impart wisdom to some people G'kar didn't so much "dumb it down" as give up and just tell them what they wanted to hear. Doc Franklin's shrug in sympathy at the end was a nice touch I thought. Anyway, I've always liked that scene.
G∞d point. But we, they and me wont give up so EDU(All!)!?.

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Old 08-18-2013, 07:06 AM   #4484
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I don't believe in crazy al-Qaeda conspiracy theories. People with authority have been trying to control the masses thorugh lies and deception since, well, before Jesus was born. And I'm sure Jesus was a real Semite, as was Abraham, so they looked like Iraqis not like German Jews.{...}
You don't believe in crazy conspiracies but yet you believe humans are nothing special in this world. You say truth about that people in charge want to deceive us through lies and whatnot yet you support nonexistance of higher powers. Screw this. Just go explore you will find that most mythology actually describes real events that happened in past! Just like in this trailer he tells him that "You will learn someday.." i say "You will learn someday that being human is not curse but gift!" Use it!

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Old 08-18-2013, 08:06 AM   #4485
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Human Hope?

Human life proves there is human hope. But as long as we all meet with death, and as long as none triumph over death, that proves there is no human hope. But then, what about this life we still have?
 
  


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