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Old 07-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #4441
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Of course the Bible was written by scores of authors. Each book has its author. And yes, there was probably commentary added much later and accepted as canon. That doesn't negate that each book was co-authored by man and God, or that the committees who finalized what was canon were supervised by God. There's very little evidence in the Scriptures themselves and even in the historical record that strongly suggests the Bible is not authentic.
That's a statement every single religion considers the characteristics of its texts to be. Why should anyone believe one religion over the other? Not to mention the numerous differences in every single religion and how each claims to be "the correct one".
 
Old 07-19-2013, 03:31 PM   #4442
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That's a statement every single religion considers the characteristics of its texts to be. Why should anyone believe one religion over the other? Not to mention the numerous differences in every single religion and how each claims to be "the correct one".
Christ is the singular instance who overcame death on our behalf, that nemesis of man, through dramatic death in time, resurrection and visible ascension to the right hand of God.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 03:52 PM   #4443
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Christ is the singular instance who overcame death on our behalf, that nemesis of man, through dramatic death in time, resurrection and visible ascension to the right hand of God.
That's what Christianity says. There are many such instances in religions far far older than Christianity. In fact, some religions have God incarnating himself to cleanse man of his sins. I don't think this argument flies ..
 
Old 07-19-2013, 04:09 PM   #4444
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That's what Christianity says. There are many such instances in religions far far older than Christianity. In fact, some religions have God incarnating himself to cleanse man of his sins. I don't think this argument flies ..
Before you waste too much time, you really should read some of bluegospels other posts.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 05:31 PM   #4445
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That's what Christianity says. There are many such instances in religions far far older than Christianity. In fact, some religions have God incarnating himself to cleanse man of his sins. I don't think this argument flies ..
Gotta love the good old circular argument:

Q: "Why is your book right?"
A: "Because it says it is."
Q: "So does every other religious book, what makes the other ones wrong and yours right?"
A: "Because my book says the other books are wrong."

Religious zealots never seem to understand why this isn't a valid argument.

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #4446
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^so "true"^
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Apparently, since the topic here on this site is "Linux", and you're not posting about it. Again.
Could always unsubscribe from here, LegendQuarry...

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:10 PM   #4447
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Gotta love the good old circular argument:

Q: "Why is your book right?"
A: "Because it says it is."
Q: "So does every other religious book, what makes the other ones wrong and yours right?"
A: "Because my book says the other books are wrong."

Religious zealots never seem to understand why this isn't a valid argument.
Indeed. Even when that is pointed out to be the case, explicitly.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 01:03 PM   #4448
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...fear as social-engineering will only create "apo˘alyp$e"...(dot)The War on Kids: The Definitive Documentary on the Failure of the Public Education System

Spoilers\reviews for The Man from Earth (2007) coming up next...

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:11 PM   #4449
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Last sunday I saw a movie The man from earth (2007).
The story was, a man has been living since 14000 years on earth.
He was a cro magnon , a cave man.
He survived every accidnt and still with us. He went to India in 500 bc. and lived with Buddha.
Now he went to jeruslem and it is revealed that he was Jesus.

He learned technique to bear pain so he survived crucifiction.

I mean it all looks so stupid and i know it is all imagination but it is beautiful that how directotor presented his thoughts.

I dont know but the idea that he is still alive and he is with us and he will be always, its more important physically, gives relief and strength.

The whole movie is in single room and all about discussion but it had been filmed beautifully.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 01:23 PM   #4450
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Last sunday I saw a movie The man from earth (2007).

The whole movie is in single room and all about discussion but it had been filmed beautifully.
Nice movie. I would like to say "A must see!", but I'm sure some will be offended by it.

I liked his New testament in 100 words or less.
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Guy met the Buddha, liked what he heard,
Thought about it for a while--
Say 500 years, while he returned to the Mediterranean,
Became an Etruscan.
Seeped into the roman empire.
He didn't like what they became-- A giant killing machine.
He went to the near east thinking,
"Why not pass the Buddha's teachings on in a modern form."
So he tried.
One dissident against Rome?
Rome won.
The rest is history.
Well, sort of. Lot of fairy tales mixed in.

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:43 PM   #4451
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If God DID say it, it's certainly true...
Unless God felt like lying...
 
Old 07-20-2013, 01:55 PM   #4452
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Nice movie. I would like to say "A must see!", but I'm sure some will be offended by it.
Ya, definitely,any christian can feel bad. But not every.
Even the lady was offended in the movie and crying like a baby until man says it is all a story.
And she was not happy to know that it is a story and she asked him to apologize but the man doesn't think twice to say sorry and I was believing that he was jesus so i was very emotional at this moment when he said sorry.
But the conversation is amazing. It doesnt let you move until end. Like a suspense thriller movie like seven or the silence of the lambs or The others but even better.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:10 AM   #4453
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Last sunday I saw a movie The man from earth (2007).
The story was, a man has been living since 14000 years on earth.
He was a cro magnon , a cave man.
He survived every accidnt and still with us. He went to India in 500 bc. and lived with Buddha.
Now he went to jeruslem and it is revealed that he was Jesus.

He learned technique to bear pain so he survived crucifiction.

I mean it all looks so stupid and i know it is all imagination but it is beautiful that how directotor presented his thoughts.

I dont know but the idea that he is still alive and he is with us and he will be always, its more important physically, gives relief and strength.

The whole movie is in single room and all about discussion but it had been filmed beautifully.
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Nice movie. I would like to say "A must see!", but I'm sure some will be offended by it.

I liked his New testament in 100 words or less....
...
...i will have to see it... Right now Oh, God! (1977) is on TV, in the movie he doesn't care about religion either only how we treat each other!
 
Old 07-22-2013, 05:41 AM   #4454
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Of course the Bible was written by scores of authors. Each book has its author. And yes, there was probably commentary added much later and accepted as canon. That doesn't negate that each book was co-authored by man and God, or that the committees who finalized what was canon were supervised by God.
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Surely, if jesus was god (I totally disagree with that idea) jesus...or one of the other bits...would have though 'wait a sec, we need to get this out in our own words'. As it stands, there is no 'my gospel, by jesus' in the bible.
So you believe that an omni* god was on earth but didnt bother to set thing straight himself, but would rather 'supervise'?

Its just as easy to believe that its the work of satan, if you believe the whole god/satan thing.

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There's very little evidence in the Scriptures themselves and even in the historical record that strongly suggests the Bible is not authentic.
There is tons of evidence in the histroical reccord that suggests that the bible is wrong, dating back well over 100 years.

TB0ne is right, if you dont see any evidence the bible is wrong at (least in places) then its just willful ignorance.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 10:45 AM   #4455
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OM”G” (not to mention Futurama's "age of the tentacle\gentacles"... "you can see why people use to believe in hell" —Stephen Fry in America Pacific E6) good game on the subject: The Binding of Isaac... not that we are't all crazy just some get education on right from wrong

Edit\ps: just started the movie, love that it's from "Falling Sky Entertainment" hehe
2nd edit: not halfway yet but i like it and had to quote\say:
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...but I'm sure some will be offended by it....
...who cares (in many cases e.g. if it's not murder in the name of ∞++ and such) that's their\our own stupidities...
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Originally Posted by onebuck View Post
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Quote:
"Knowledge of mankind is a knowledge of their passions." - Disraeli ...
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Done: “Damn” good movie! Towards the end someone here was burning a fire outside, sweet smellovision...
Using hell(\fairy-tales) rather than fixing it here now is blasphemy towards all(.) We’re going to die so just relax (NEVER THROW STONES duuu) and deal with it; through education, what rimes with meditation\moderation and (somewhat debatably) a waste, medacation?!. http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/05/...-youre-stupid/

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