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Old 08-23-2011, 10:50 AM   #2806
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Can you please prove this "well established fact" ?
No problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Muhammad
 
Old 08-23-2011, 02:25 PM   #2807
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If you were referring to PrinceSharma, he himself said he don't believe in God. So there is no point in asking him anything.
There sure are some manipulating problems with you sire, I'm confident now.

Had you been reading all of my previous replies to you, you would've found me saying somewhere "Aham Brahmasmi" long before and summing things up. Now that you yourself have mentioned the reference of Vedas over time, this time again go figure, for what does that mean.
Self proclaimed Gods, forceful teachings of books and implied religious practices, I'm free from that, so did you read.

As long as I believe that there is just one highest power up above, somewhere or everywhere which can't even be "discussed" by mere human beings, leave alone the claim of being "owned" and written down in books; there can't be any holy books for me.

If there really really is one real power called God, there exist no frigin' different religions and their varying practices. <- Case with me.
And, 'If I'm not with it, doesn't mean I'm against it." Keep that in mind.

Rest, Anisha had real good patience to sum up things for you in simpler words.

Regards.

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Old 08-23-2011, 07:24 PM   #2808
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Do you have faith/religion?

What is your religion?
Do you believe God?
 
Old 08-23-2011, 07:49 PM   #2809
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Yes, I'm a Christian. I am convinced there is a God, and it's Jesus Christ.

Don't hate anyone, love everyone, just hate the bad they do.

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Old 08-23-2011, 08:05 PM   #2810
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This just begs to be merged with "Rank your religiousness.".

Reported to be merged.
 
Old 08-23-2011, 08:59 PM   #2811
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Do you believe God?
Haven't met it(/him/her) yet, so how can I believe it(/him/her)?

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Old 08-23-2011, 09:38 PM   #2812
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Not trying to be a troll or anything, but I simply don't understand how anyone could believe in god. People are intelligent enough to disbelieve in a hundred other similar things, but god is this one thing that people cling to. There's nothing to corroborate the history of any supernatural occurrences in the Bible (or the Torah or the Koran or any other similar book). The only things that the Bible contains that is backed up by scientific evidence or historical records are the mundane things - "xxxx was the king of Somewhere".

And then there's the mountain of physical evidence that actually tends to prove things contrary to what is found in the Bible.

I could maybe understand if Christians/Muslims/Whatever were okay with the idea that the Bible is mostly allegory and if they think that all the evidence simply points to God's methods (God was the catalyst for the Big Bang, in effect). I'd still strongly disagree, but I could at least know that I'm speaking to someone who is willing to think things out.

But the fact that people just blindly accept things spoken for only in a 1700+ year old book is unbelievable.

As for my own religion, I think the technical term is apatheism. I try to ignore religion altogether when I can.

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Old 08-23-2011, 09:47 PM   #2813
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Not trying to be a troll or anything, but I simply don't understand how anyone could believe in god.
Because there are things people don't completely understand, and sometimes situations that can't be quite easily explained happen.

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the Bible
Sigh... Christianity is not the only religion in the world.

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But the fact that people just blindly accept things spoken for only in a 1700+ year old book is unbelievable.
Well in this case you could try hinduism - it is said to be oldest active religion in the world.
 
Old 08-23-2011, 11:48 PM   #2814
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If you seek God sincerely, you will find that modern cosmology indicates the universe has a beginning.
God is the Creator.
How do we know that? By God's Revelation.

I studied religions for >20 years, though I am not an expert, but based on my quite in depth understanding of Bible and Buddhism's scriptures,
I believe God of Christianity is more reliable than believing the Universe exists by itself and designs everything by itself.

Even Stephen Hawking in his new book - The Grand Design, can provide no evidence to disprove God, he only dares to say that God is improbable, the law of Physics governs everything, basically, Physics is the God of him.


 
Old 08-24-2011, 12:27 AM   #2815
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but I simply don't understand how anyone could believe in god.
Life is hard in many different places on Earth.
People feel the need of some kind of "protection"
to cope up with their daily life. Some situations
are not explainable or people don't have enough
knowledge to understand why x happened, this leads
them to believe that there is some unseen power
behind this happening, and that unseen power is
"termed" as God.
 
Old 08-24-2011, 01:31 AM   #2816
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Do you think God has faith in him self? If we don't believe in our selves, do we exist?

If God created us in his image, is that image really only skin deep? Or does it encompass all our violence as well. We were created unknowing of our sins and were there for innocent and pure. Not that we didn't do evil, but we didn't know it was evil. Then we took the apple and ate it and became all knowing of our sins. So is God innocent of his cruelty or does he know that he is? Don't say he isn't because he sent a flood to destroy humans and cast out Adam and eve from the sanctuary, if not cruel then what is it? Merciful like putting an animal down that has cancer because we can't taken care of it? Are we pets? servants? toys? equals? or creations to roam free? I don't care to understand or have answers to anything that I was taught about the Christian God.

No, I believe that if something created the universe, us, and everything. Then we are, by extension of an artist's creation, all apart of God. And if not something all knowing and intelligent, then we are all stardust and come from the same roots. So it doesn't matter what you believe of anything as we are all the same. We all have the same potential for good acts and great evil if such things can be quantified by anything other than our own moral code that is constantly changing as we understand eachother. If you have no faith in anything, then have faith that humans need to feel like they are apart of something and that is something that's correct and validates their existence.

Besides if humans could really comprehend and know anything about anything, we would know everything there is about the universe instead of trying to guess at it. I would say that God is one good guess for something we can not describe or ever understand.

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:21 AM   #2817
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Life is hard in many different places on Earth.
People feel the need of some kind of "protection"
to cope up with their daily life. Some situations
are not explainable or people don't have enough
knowledge to understand why x happened, this leads
them to believe that there is some unseen power
behind this happening, and that unseen power is
"termed" as God.
This is only one of the reasons, but the true fact is,
God exists.
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:23 AM   #2818
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but the true fact is, God exists.
Thanks for the enlightenment, any proofs
to support the said fact?
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:30 AM   #2819
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Thanks for the enlightenment, any proofs
to support the said fact?
Read the bible and think carefully with a humble heart.
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:38 AM   #2820
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Read the bible and think carefully with a humble heart.
and why shouldn't I read Quran? Why only Bible?
and what has a proof to do with a humble heart?
and do you mean that God exists because it is
written in Bible?

Well, I think you should study the difference
between a fact and a belief.

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