The Faith & Religion mega Thread

Originally Posted by sycamorex Then Quran is clearly not a holy book. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Qu...3-violence.htm http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

Agreed. It should be banned for advocating violence and racism.

Originally Posted by ShaanAli If you pick something wrong from holy book its either not a holy book Or you think thats wrong because that does not suits to you.

But if it does not suit me then it cannot be universally applicable. If not universally applicable, then you have to accept the legitimacy of other forms of worship, including polytheism, or no worship at all.

Originally Posted by sycamorex Then Quran is clearly not a holy book. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Qu...3-violence.htm http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

Originally Posted by brianL Agreed. It should be banned for advocating violence and racism.

Dont be so quick jumper after reading any article on net. Aware net is full of misleading people.

Quran says killing any human being is same as killing whole humankind. Saving a human being is same as saving the entire humankind.

All the quotes you seeing are in context of war. In war it is permissible to kill opponent. This is allowed in any religion, in any country rule. In a war if any opponent surrenders what max today any country army will do, will leave him there to die. But Quran says in war if any body surrenders, pardon him and escort him to safe place.

Originally Posted by ShaanAli Quran says killing any human being is same as killing whole humankind. Saving a human being is same as saving the entire humankind.

Tell that to your suicide-bombing co-religionists.

Originally Posted by brianL Tell that to your suicide-bombing co-religionists.

This is all political, nothing to do with religion.

Originally Posted by moxieman99 But if it does not suit me then it cannot be universally applicable. If not universally applicable, then you have to accept the legitimacy of other forms of worship, including polytheism, or no worship at all.

Its not necessary what you think is good for you is really good for you and what you think is bad for you is really bad for you.

Originally Posted by ShaanAli s per your name, you supposed to be "pandit" means highly knowledgeable of your religion. But sad to say you dont even know ABCD of your own religion.[/U] Inspite of accepting that, you show as if you are master of everything. I dont remember you brought any point to this thread so far. Before conclude anything about anyone, study yourself first.

That clearly shows up the frustration at this level, Shaan.
Nobody including me, is claiming to know the best of everything except you yourself so far. I'm not surprised to see your sheer mindlessness. I said $hit happens.

And I don't need to make any point to a person like you who doesn't simply understand the word circular-logic and advocating sheer stupidity in spite of thinking rationally and giving some generic arguments. You can keep pointing at my surname, I'm not so bothered.

And if I haven't been copy pasting the text from my belief system's books, that doesn't mean I don't know anything. If I would have been doing it so far without making an argument outside it, that would simply make me appear like a mindless fool like you've been seen so far. Got it?

I doubt that you will get this simple point coz' that may not be written in Quran, lol.

And FYI, as far as knowing something's concerned, I had been made studying my holy books because I'm born in a Brahmin family and later some parts of Quran gifted by my Muslim gf(already told If you recollect) and a few other books you may consider holy, found all of them less or more similar in philosophy, nothing which can make me follow any of them blindly.


And yeah, here you are talking to a person who stopped considering holy books the words of God a long before the day I started reading them, so your arguments over yours, mine and anybody's else religions are making 0 impact to me. I'm just surprised to see the side effects you're having by reading your book without a generic thinking. No fault of yours I must say.

I still seriously wish you get some insight in this life.

Regards.

Originally Posted by PrinceSharma ......

*** No Comment ***

Originally Posted by SigTerm I think that if somebody someday will be able to prove some religion and existence of god, it would make sense to banish or destroy that deity so the people will finally start thinking for themselves instead of being "god's slaves" and relying on holy texts. P.S. The discussion surely got boring lately....

Had he been providing some arguments from outside his book which could be considered having a good discussion, I'd surely have participated.
Took me a good time to turn an agnostic from a teenage theist. Thanks to people like ShaanAli, they keep proving how a forced and blind religious practice could turn you into someone with no sense of openness.

Originally Posted by ShaanAli This is all political, nothing to do with religion.

Wrong. It's religious, they're doing it for the sake of Islam, they make that quite plain in the videos they release before committing their atrocities.

Originally Posted by brianL Wrong. It's religious, they're doing it for the sake of Islam, they make that quite plain in the videos they release before committing their atrocities.

You see what you are shown. Agree some muslims are doing that, but they are brain washed. Allah never allowed them to do so. Killing to oneself is extreme action, even hurting is not allowed.
Do not cause your hand to be your destructive. - Quran.

This is one line, but says a lot.

Originally Posted by ShaanAli Its not necessary what you think is good for you is really good for you and what you think is bad for you is really bad for you.

What's good or bad for you or me is irrelevant. Your statement was whether something in someone's "holy book" was "applicable." If it applies, then the application could be good or bad. If it doesn't apply, then the "holy book" cannot be applicable.

Originally Posted by brianL Wrong. It's religious, they're doing it for the sake of Islam, they make that quite plain in the videos they release before committing their atrocities.

You have to concede his point, brian. Would you likewise accept that the Norway wacko killed for Christian reasons? I think not.

Faith I can live with. Religion I will happily do without.

Originally Posted by brianL Wrong. It's religious, they're doing it for the sake of Islam, they make that quite plain in the videos they release before committing their atrocities.

I do not tend to agree with this 100% as I once mentioned beforehand.
Not every Muslim is in the favor of this shit at least to whom I know, been and grown up with.

See it this way, this guy here is adamant on proving the words of Quran are the words of REAL God out there because he closed his eyes just because he knows he will not be able to handle the truth once revealed. Good for HIM as long as he stays with it. Not for everybody.
Same way those people out there bombing out everything in the name of Islam are just plain brain washed just because they have been given the wrong definition of Jehaad (fight back), with no proper motivation. And there Islam fails. That's sad though.

Originally Posted by brianL Tell that to your suicide-bombing co-religionists.

Have you noticed that "aerial bombing good: suicide bombing: bad" is a Western double standard?