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Old 04-04-2014, 01:05 PM   #31
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We shall see, if and when others besides yourself chime in.
 
Old 04-04-2014, 01:31 PM   #32
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We shall see, if and when others besides yourself chime in.
I believe that this is code for "This discussion is over."
 
Old 04-04-2014, 01:39 PM   #33
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No, it is code for "a discussion has not yet occurred here." You've made your points, even re-sparking this thread when it had gone silent. Your points and mine have been heard well enough, but few others'. If there is no further interest in the topic on this forum, such that a real debate-dynamic of multiple truly engaged points of view could occur, let it die.
 
Old 04-04-2014, 02:37 PM   #34
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I tried to bring up some relevant points, but I think you took a (maybe intentionally) distorted message from what I said.

My main point is that (in software engineering) intelligence tends to be more important than knowledge. At its theoretical best, a licensing system would qualify based on knowledge, not intelligence. More likely, it would be a set of artificial hurdles that slow down the best engineers almost as much as is slows down mediocre engineers.

Looking at Dugan's interpretation of your argument:

"Software projects are failing because they are being worked on by people who aren't qualified to work on them". That agrees with all of my experience in the field (though I think a larger fraction of failures originate higher up in management).

"licensure will decrease the failure rate by increasing the quality of the workforce". That idea is so implausible, it is hard to imagine how anyone familiar with software engineering could believe that.
 
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You've made your points, even re-sparking this thread when it had gone silent. Your points and mine have been heard well enough, but few others'.
Your behavior has consistently indicated that this is not the case.
 
  


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