Linux like AMD is becoming more and more popular. I have read alot of this forum and I pretty much believe that Linux in the future is going to give Microsoft a good run for the money. I for one can not justify paying $400 for a copy of an operating system that I can only install on one machine. Yea Microsoft has relaxed its EULA to include another machine for personal use But it doesn't like it.

My opinion is an Operating system should not cost as much as the computer that it runs on. It shouldn't even cost a quarter of what that machine costs. Operating systems are constantly needing upgrades and patches to stay current. If I purchase a copy of a software title I should be able to do whatever I want to do with it within reason. It shouldnt cost me my left arm to purchase and it should be easy to use.

Microsoft has now come out with its new DirectX 10. I am not happy about being required to purchase vista just to be able to use it. In order to play new games and reap the full benefits of it you need Directx 10. Microsoft trying to squeeze more money out of its consumers.

Linux on the other hand is either free or low cost. many distros are very user friendly and with a little patience easy to learn. It is much more stable and runs much leaner than any microsoft application ever dreamed about. this adds up to a faster more efficient running computer. After all you paid all this money for top of the line High quality parts, why not get everything out if them that you can. Linux does this better than windows.

Most people are much more comfortable with windows because thats all they had because Frankly Bill Gates and the Microsoft team are marketing Gurus.

I own my own computer company. I build custom machines for customers to mach their specific needs. While I have installed windows on all of then I also plan on including a free copy of Ubuntu Linux with the computer for the user to do with as they see fit. I have no problem distributing other copies of other distros at all Ubuntu seems to be one of the only distros that makes it so easy and packages its product in a manner that makes it attractive to users to start using and try easily.

Linux is a better operating system once you get used to using it. Bottom line.

MacPoint_Man

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Provided linux have all application users need(eventhough linux is good OS), currently Linux have not enough application as alternative:-
Macromedia Flash
Adobe Acrobat (with high compression)

God bless Linux OS.
Regards,
Ks

Hi all,
I like Linux, but I still start this topic to tell windows users the truth.

So my comment for linux is:-
1. Linux not use exe file to execute.
2. Linux not use exe file or msi file to install application, they use rpm, deb, source code, any much more.
3. Linux not standard, many things in 1 distro may not find in another distro.
4. Linux not using activex, get ready for some website incompatible.
5. Linux not always double click, majority of setting need to edit configuration file or command line.
6. Linux not always use GUI, don't be frighten if you see black screen in Linux PC.
7. Linux not use .lnk file as short cut.
8. Linux not easy, don't expect without deep learning you able to make your PC full fill your requirement.
9. Linux not always high performance, Centos and Suse have huge difference in their performance.
10.Linux not ... (Hope others people can continue)


I know in some condition above issue is 'LINUX CAN', but generally 'LINUX NOT'. Anyway, I appreciate any comment.

Regards,
Ks

Hey kstan, I'm sorry you had (or are having) a bad time with Linux, hopefully no one sees your comments as flamebait (I hope it isn't).

Here's are my own personal opinions differing from the points you made:


Many Linux distros use .rpm or .deb files, which within many distributions are as easily installable as clicking an exe file would be on Windows. I download an rpm file on openSUSE and a zen installer automatically opens, installs it for me, and puts a shortcut on my apps menu.

Or, even more easily, I can save myself the time spent searching on the internet and search through the application databse (be it YAST or Linspire's CNR), checkmark, checkmark, and click finish.

I'm done.

With the exception of source tar balls, I don't feel, as a newbie, that this makes Linux necessarily any harder than Windows like I said before.


Many mainstream distros generally have the same apps in their repositories. I can install OpenOffice using YAST just as I can using CNR in Linspire, Synaptic in Ubuntu, or urpmi in Mandriva so this hasn't been a problem for me.

Active X is one of the most major causes of exploits on Windows/Internet Explorer. In other words, an Internet Explorer only/Active X site was probably not worth visiting in the first place.


Again, as a newbie, I find YAST a very nifty tool for what I may need to configure on my system, from my high speed connection to users on my system.

The GNOME and KDE control panels also work well for this.

Well as long as it isn't a blue screen...

Jk. Linux has nicer and more varied GUIs than Windows I think. I like the two panel concept GNOME has and the nice polish/window decoration/border customization of KDE.

And don't even get me started on XGL.

Is that bad?

This may be true if you're married to an application on Windows, but Linux fulfills my requirements/needs/wants very nicely and I am far from "deeply learned."

SUSE can be sluggish, but RAM is cheaper these days, and there are nice lean and application rich distros like PuppyLinux (my favorite lightweight one!)

I also like real puppies.


Linux [is] not Windows?


Regards,

-r

4. Very few websites use ActiveX, the ones that do suck anyway.
5. Quite a few distros have GUI's for pretty much any configuration needed
6. its only no GUI if thats what you want
8. Linux is just as easy to use as windows or a Mac
9. Performance is all in what window manager/desktop manager you use. And what background processes you have running,

How about Linux can be whatever you want it to be. You want it to just work go with Xandros, PCLinuxOS, Suse Pro.

You want to tweak, tinker, actually learn how things work, dig into the nuts and bolt, use Slackware, Debian, neither of which are difficult to use.

Post like the OP, are like a Big DO NOT USE Linux sign. What was the point?

Hi blink56k,

Yes what you mentioned is correct, but as I mentioned the purpose of this topic is:
Windows user too familiar in windows and they will finding some 'common sense' in Linux too. So just tell them what LINUX NOT rather then how to walk arround.

Regards,
Ks

Hi craigevil,

Ha, I get you. Next time will write a better subject.

Thanks for your feed back.

Regards,
Ks

That works fine here. There are several programs to open pdf's too. Your distro missing something?

Who's lying?

I don't think any of us are. But I understand you want to warn Windows users who think it'll be a no-brainer transition.

Kstan;

I am sorry, but I find the responses so far to be a bit too polite.

Your post is wrong is some details, misleading when taken as a whole, and really quite pointless. I really question your motivation.

The typical Windows user considering switching to Linux--even if only for a trial run--is not going to go thru that litany of negatives. They are going to start with a few favorite apps, discover some issues and go chase those specifically.

Next post, I encourage you to do something a bit more constructive.

I think he's talking about creating flash. Though flash mx is supported by codeweavers. But you have to pay for that. The flash plugin is as good as the one for windows, as far as I can tell. I think a shockwave player is still missing.
There are a few ways to create pdf's.

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looks like most flash versions should run with wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3673
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There is still no real alternative for professional audio on linux. But there is hope in Ubuntu-Studio, and hopefully Cockos-Reaper will be ported to linux this year. That would be huge. Then it would take a couple of years to build a user base, so it pays for the plugin coders to make linux ports.

However, I believe within 5 years everything will be change.
Below is some alternative which I feel exciting:-

QCAD, Intellicad for Linux x AutoCAD
Mainactor x adobe premiere
Openoffice x Ms. Office (Currently MS is doing plugin for odf file too)
Firefox, opera x IE
AMSN, gaim, kopete x amsn, icq, yahoo
Compiere, tiny ERP x all kind of windows only ERP software
DIMDIM webconference(alfa) x any kind of windows only web conference software
gimp x adobe photoshop
NX x remote desktop
msql, postgresql and etc x any kind of windows only database

Currently what I observe is all IT big player is slowly support linux, see what happening after few years.

Regards,
Ks

Windows vs Linux (or vice versa)?? This thread is now in General with the rest. See also the megathread stickied at the top of the forum.

*sigh*

I was going to bost a rebuttal to some of the ignorant comments posted by the OP, but screw it, I'm tired of repeating myself :\