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what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:11 PM   #796
dalek
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Gentoo is for the extreme for sure. I started out on Mandrake and updating was a mess. Dependancies were a nightmare. Gentoo has very few problems with that. I run into a conflict sometimes and have to uninstall something before it can update something else but that is the best way sometimes. It comes up and tells you what to do so it can't get much easier than that. I'm just not going as far as LFS yet though. Gentoo is close enough for me thank you.

Funny you mention a standard shift car. That's what I have and I think every car I have ever had has been. Strange huh?

Oh, I'm used to being picked on. It just goes like water off a ducks back. ;-)

Later

 
Old 12-29-2006, 06:50 PM   #797
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feelings about linux

Hi there!

I just wanted to express my feelings about linux and windows. I think that Windows, the primary product of Microsoft is a peace of crap. That is for sure. It is userfriendly and it has got some nice features like thousands of useful programs, great driver support and so on but I still think that with that financial background they should make something better, nicer, faster.
Compared to any kind of Linux I think that Windows a lot behind. Let see Ubuntu or Debian just because I know them to some extent. They are free. That is what I love so much in them. And what is more important that I have got a lot better understanding of everything that is going on in the background. I can configure the kernel, I can optimize it, I can do whatever I want to. Everything that I need is there. If a program that I develpoed fails to work, what I need to do is go push a couple buttons: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, ps -u username and then kill the process. If the X crashed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
I would never imagene doing anything similar with windows.
Linux is the BEST for both office use (reliable and stable) and for developement.
What it is not good for... Let see. Nothing. Lots of people say that this is a bad choice for those who like playing. And I laugh. Why? Codega. Google for it and you will be amazed. Anything you need is a Video Card that has got 3D support and that's all. You can play WoW, EVE-Online, CS, whatever you want.
Bad for multimedia? That might be true. But again for home users that do not wish to use Adobe Premiere it is more then enough. There are simpler video editors and you can play all kinda videos, listen to music or record sound.

The user inerface. I was seriously amazed how much it improved over the years. I can recall that I hated the outfit of Gnome with GTK1 but now I love it and would never use KDE. (Maybe KDE4)
It is highly customizable.

There are one more thing that Linux owns that Windows do not. The community behind it. (^_^)

Personally I do not ever use Windows. I do not use MacOS. I do use Ubuntu, Debian and other nice distros that are required to get my work done. (Programming)
Dani
 
Old 01-04-2007, 10:03 PM   #798
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throwing stones at windows

I picked up a copy of red hat from best buy back in december of 2000. My first impression (after what the
heck is a swap drive and what do you mean I have to
specify at least one root partition /),
was this is way cool but my windows does a lot more.
Ever since I have been a distro junkie and have
installed mandrake fedora suse debian gentoo turbo and
now finally mepis.
Now I can tell you the ease of use (and cool factor) from install to simply using amorok for playing mp3's has increased exponentially in
the last few years. I am sure that a more massive adoption of linux has lead to this and mabey projects
like eclipse.

now the modern distributions just rock

I just want to personally thank all the linux programmers out there for kicking windows back to the stone age.
 
Old 01-04-2007, 10:23 PM   #799
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidleroux1
I just want to personally thank all the linux programmers out there for kicking windows back to the stone age.
Ummm, windoze was always in the stone age.

I just had to say that.

 
Old 01-04-2007, 11:04 PM   #800
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vargadanis
I think that Windows, the primary product of Microsoft is a peace of crap. That is for sure. It is userfriendly and it has got some nice features like thousands of useful programs, great driver support and so on but I still think that with that financial background they should make something better, nicer, faster.
Are you joking I had to download/buy lots of tools before I really could do what I need/like to do.
By default, no sed, no compiler, a very primitive editor, no office suite, no database etc.
 
Old 01-05-2007, 02:12 AM   #801
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Useful applications in Ubuntu's default installation:
Firefox
GIMP
Rhythmbox
OpenOffice
Gedit

Useful applications in Windows' default installation:
Internet Explorer
MS Paint
Windows Media Player
Wordpad
Notepad

No comparison. Ubuntu wins.
 
Old 01-05-2007, 02:16 AM   #802
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aysiu
Useful applications in Ubuntu's default installation:
Firefox
GIMP
Rhythmbox
OpenOffice
Gedit

Useful applications in Windows' default installation:
Internet Explorer
MS Paint
Windows Media Player
Wordpad
Notepad

No comparison. Ubuntu wins.

Let's not forget that insecure Outlook Express for viruses, I mean email. LOL

 
Old 01-08-2007, 07:03 AM   #803
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vargadanis
some nice features like thousands of useful programs, great driver support
I wouldn't even go down the road of "great driver support" either.
On my parents computer, Windows XP had no out-of-the box support for any of the hardware. I would have to spend about an hour feeding the computer cd after cd of drivers to get things going. All the Linux distros I've tried so far support all my hardware (except for the video hardware acceleration).
Not to mention, on Windows you have to reboot your computer every time a new driver is installed. On linux, you just modprobe the modules you need, and you're on your way.

And then there is also the thing of sloppy/malicious drivers, that Windows gets flooded with. I make a point of not using proprietary drivers unless I really have to, and stay clear of ndiswrapper as much as I can as well.

Last edited by easuter; 01-08-2007 at 07:05 AM.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 04:51 PM   #804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easuter
I wouldn't even go down the road of "great driver support" either.
On my parents computer, Windows XP had no out-of-the box support for any of the hardware. I would have to spend about an hour feeding the computer cd after cd of drivers to get things going. All the Linux distros I've tried so far support all my hardware (except for the video hardware acceleration).
Not to mention, on Windows you have to reboot your computer every time a new driver is installed. On linux, you just modprobe the modules you need, and you're on your way.

And then there is also the thing of sloppy/malicious drivers, that Windows gets flooded with. I make a point of not using proprietary drivers unless I really have to, and stay clear of ndiswrapper as much as I can as well.

I think people tend to forget that windows supports very little hardware, that's why manufacturers have to supply a drivers disc with every product they sell. And since alot of people by computers that preinstalled from major computer sellers, a person out back has done all the time installing a making sure that everything works before it goes to the buyer. All the buyer has to do is take it home and plugs it in. So natural they are going to think that windozes support all their hardware straight out of the box.

I have been using linux for over 6 years now and have never had an issues with drive support, and some of my hardware at one time was the very latest.

Last edited by fotoguy; 01-08-2007 at 04:55 PM.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 05:22 AM   #805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritime
I use Linux and like it a lot. But I think that it is completely immature that some users continue to bash Windows and Microsoft.

First of all, I don't know how you use your system, but Windows is NOT usually prone to errors/bugs. I've been using Windows XP for years and [I]never once have I gotten a single fatal error .......... But please, do not try to glorify Linux by saying Windows "breaks all the time." Because that is just false, unless you abuse it (in which case, of course it would break, just like any other operating system). Does Linux have advantages over Windows? Sure it does, but emphasize them rather then nonexistant Windows faults.

This isn't directed toward anyone in particular, of course. I'm just venting.
I use a Windows box I bought through Sony 4 and a half years ago; ancient in computer years I know. It was fronted as 'gaming' capable machine with a decent processor, gfx card, and memory (for it's time and the money). I by no means abused this machine, but was constantly plagued with the BSOD due to buggy patches (SP1-2) and crap like that. The fix?! take my high res screen (1600 x 1200) and put it in a box about 5" x 5". I paid over two G's for this...

--and M$ wants $100 dollars for their brilliant SP2 patches in any store!-- I was able to avoid this issue by reinstalling windows and not updating my ATI driver, leaving me to deal with seemingly random BSOD sessions. And security, let me click this 'link' and tell more about M$ security..... (they rake in billions, and can't make a OS more reliable than a ford tempo).

I don't know a lot about it but Vista looks pretty good, only time will tell...
 
Old 01-09-2007, 05:48 AM   #806
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I have to say, I have seen windoze XP crash with a blue screen before too, a few times. I have seen XP not boot and have to reinstall, several times. My soon to be ex wife had one that would boot but the keyboard and mouse would not work. They were PS/2 so they should have worked. After the reinstall, they worked fine. They still do too.

I think saying windoze has nonexistant faults is going a bit far. Heck, I was working on computers when win 3.1 came out. What a nightmare that was. XP is better but still no where even close to Linux. If Billy wants me to use windoze, he can pay me, a LOT too.

My $0.02 worth.

 
Old 01-09-2007, 10:26 AM   #807
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I actually remember when Microsoft used to be helpful. Back in the days of Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.11 I needed the Win32s patch for some program to work. I didn't have reliable internet access, so I phoned Microsoft South Africa (I lived there back then). They posted win32s for Windows 3.11 and and some other stuff on a bunch of floppies, no charge. I can't imagine them doing that today!
 
Old 01-09-2007, 04:52 PM   #808
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Let's not forget that insecure Outlook Express for viruses, I mean email. LOL
Ok you want to talk insecure email? Let's talk sendmail. Outlook Express is insecure only because it has retarded usres that click MyFamily.jpg.exe/vbs whatever. On my Windows PCs I use Outlook Express for my pop3 email and Internet Explorer for my web browsing. Oh and get this. I don't have antivirus software or a firewall! Once every year or so I'll hop on an online virus scan just to prove that Windows isn't as prone to virus like people say.
In Windows as long as you keep your updates to date you are pretty much good to go. Same with any OS out there.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 04:55 PM   #809
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I have to say, I have seen windoze XP crash with a blue screen before too, a few times. I have seen XP not boot and have to reinstall, several times. My soon to be ex wife had one that would boot but the keyboard and mouse would not work. They were PS/2 so they should have worked. After the reinstall, they worked fine. They still do too.

I think saying windoze has nonexistant faults is going a bit far. Heck, I was working on computers when win 3.1 came out. What a nightmare that was. XP is better but still no where even close to Linux. If Billy wants me to use windoze, he can pay me, a LOT too.

My $0.02 worth.

Yes Windows crashes but that whole reinstall to fix it myth has been around way to long. There are files, services and what not that can be fixed just like in Linux. Are they well documented? Hell no. Are they in Linux? Only if a user has been so kind as to post them on some forum.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 04:59 PM   #810
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Ok you want to talk insecure email? Let's talk sendmail. Outlook Express is insecure only because it has retarded usres that click MyFamily.jpg.exe/vbs whatever. On my Windows PCs I use Outlook Express for my pop3 email and Internet Explorer for my web browsing. Oh and get this. I don't have antivirus software or a firewall! Once every year or so I'll hop on an online virus scan just to prove that Windows isn't as prone to virus like people say.
In Windows as long as you keep your updates to date you are pretty much good to go. Same with any OS out there.
How does one compare an MTA to a Email Client? It's like comparing an Apple to a Banana..
 
  


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