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what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:15 PM   #256
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"Just make a few threads with a detailed description of your problems, and what you have already tried, and It will probably get solved."

Thank you I will, I don't want you guys to think that I am launching an attack on any of you personally or the community as a whole, I am just pointing out problems. (my original post may have been a bit militant...sorry) I know you work very hard to fix them, and if I knew anything about programing (i know little) and I had the time I would try to help you out. So don't take it so personally (only some people). And if I have angered anyone, which I am sure I have...I apologize.

Riddle me this?
I keep tying to add a new printer in the systems settings in administrator mode. But the system hangs when I click the button and i can hear my fans kick in and the system jumps to 2200mghrz and 72 degrees. Whats going on. I have to keep restarting, because even if I kill the process after 10 min, the processor wont throttle down.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 06:51 PM   #257
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Riddle me this?
I keep tying to add a new printer in the systems settings in administrator mode. But the system hangs when I click the button and i can hear my fans kick in and the system jumps to 2200mghrz and 72 degrees. Whats going on. I have to keep restarting, because even if I kill the process after 10 min, the processor wont throttle down.
That's easy. On the front side of your computer, you should have a power button. Keep clicking(or pushing) it in and out as fast as you can for at least 10 minutes.

@everyone else, can't you see he's playing you.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 06:55 PM   #258
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That's easy. On the front side of your computer, you should have a power button. Keep clicking(or pushing) it in and out as fast as you can for at least 10 minutes.

@everyone else, can't you see he's playing you.
Nah, I just think he's confused.

Your question is impossible to answer.
You have to give way more information.
What distribution, what printer, what hardware etc.
And in a thread with a proper thread title in the right forum
 
Old 07-26-2006, 07:00 PM   #259
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Just to offer another "newbie" opinion on linux:

I grew tired of windoze crashing, being infected with viruses, needing constant patching, and generally being bad at doing anything I wanted to do.

So, I tried linux.

It was very very hard. Nothing worked. Then I discovered I'd only downloaded one of the CDs and I needed the other two.

Then most things worked, but it was still hard. But I stuck with it, and sorted one problem at a time, by reading books, using Yahoo/Google, asking friends.

I sorted the problems and withing about six months I had practically binned windows forever.

No more rebooting, no more crashes, no more viruses, and things just magically work with minimal effort.

Why can't windows be as good as linux?
 
Old 07-26-2006, 07:09 PM   #260
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Why can't windows be as good as linux?
i could be way off on this, but I was thinking this before I even read that quote up there.

I think what is most appealing about linux is not just having a ton of distros, applications, more features, basically saying a good large variety of stuff to try out.
Unless I'm seeing it all wrong, here is what I think.

Microsoft is a corporation, a business. They give us these (boring) programs like word and paint. They're not open source so you get what you paid for. For extra money, you need something beyond paint and word.
Linux however, opensource. It's the general public saying "I want it this way" and if someone does work on the software, BOOM, it's available for us. We can be flexible to certain degrees. We are not so limited with what we can do on a system.
I could spend 5-10 minutes resizing a picture to fit 1024x768 in paint, or try linux's showfoto and have it resized, and cut/edited to show what I want to see in under a minute.
CD Cover with Nero, forget it. I tried it, and I was frustrated with it. The size of the font changed when typing different text in there. I had to size it just right on the left to type out anything on the back.
Kover (linux), type in one box for text on the side, the other box for the back. Done. simple, quick, and practical.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's how I see it, and one of the reasons I love linux. It's these little or big things they do with software/applications that gives it a golden touch.
It's why I made the switch to linux

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Old 07-26-2006, 07:10 PM   #261
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"That's easy. On the front side of your computer, you should have a power button. Keep clicking(or pushing) it in and out as fast as you can for at least 10 minutes."

I fart in your general direction...I am not playing anyone, some of the people here are getting angry because of imaginary arguments they think their having with me IE "I don't think Linux is a viable alternative" translates to "your mom smells like a$$, and Linux is you lover and she sucks in bed"...relax maybe I just have an opinion, jeez.

"Nah, I just think he's confused.

Your question is impossible to answer.
You have to give way more information.
What distribution, what printer, what hardware etc.
And in a thread with a proper thread title in the right forum"

Will do. (-confused)
 
Old 07-26-2006, 07:21 PM   #262
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I just want to add that I have no interest in converting people to linux. It works for me, period. If you have a problem with it, I'm willing to help.
If windows works for you, great. Less work for me.

I personally have way more trouble using windows, although I have alot more experience with it. The only thing I still use windows for is in my studio for recording (cubase). As soon as ardour (the linux alternative) gets vst-plugin support, I have no use for it.

Last edited by oskar; 07-26-2006 at 07:24 PM.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 07:34 PM   #263
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Wooww Nelly, just came back from walking my dog. I am NOT trying to steer anyone clear from Linux,
Backpeddeling doubletalk.

See your first post in this thread and your first post to this forum (under this name):
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I am likely going to get flamed for this, but if there are any people browsing the forums looking for reasons to switch to Linux from windows but need a solid OS for work and life, don't get sucked by all the sweet talk. If your copy of windows is working fine...my advice is stick with it.
You start a thread you know in advance is flamebait and then you deny saying what you said and that everyone responding is mistaken.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 07:42 PM   #264
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I might as well put my two cents worth in.

I began using Linux because I got frustrated with Windows 2000 (back then), because it crashed an aweful lot (on a fresh install), to the point of requiring a reboot.

I also have an XP based computer which has little trouble at all, however I am waiting for the day for XP to behave like my Windows 2000 did after a couple of years where it just started acting up for no reason at all.

I have been using Linux for two years now (Debian and Ubuntu) and I have found it overall to be more stable than Windows 2000, and equally as stable as XP.

I could continue to use my XP computer as my main platform but I don't. I prefer to keep using Linux.

The way I see it, Microsoft seem to be fast becoming much like the oil companies, a dictatorship. Microsoft seem to have too much influence on the computing world and indeed it is stifling innovation.

I use Linux as a voice. For example, the more websites I can visit using Linux the better, its my way of doing my bit and having a say.

Some may think I am one person and it is pointless, and indeed if everyone adopted that attitude it would be pointless.

But the more people who adopt my attitude, the more the computing world will sit up and take notice.


As far as hardware compatibility, this all depends upon the hardware vendor, not the Linux community.

If hardware vendors bother to release drivers for the Linux platform, there is no problem in getting their hardware to work.

The more hardware vendors are influenced and crushed by Microsoft, the less choice we all will have with hardware and that is what will kill Linux and that is what Microsoft want to achieve.

Last edited by greengrocer; 07-26-2006 at 07:44 PM.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 08:12 PM   #265
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"you deny saying what you said and that everyone responding is mistaken."

What are you talking about, if anything I have just downgraded my tone (I was frustrated before). However my statements have not changed, I am just trying to provide more than one view, I am NOT trying to sabotage Linux. Some people may read my post may think hmm Linux does sound like a lot of trouble, well I have a lot of work to complete and a things to do in my life...I don't have time for these problems he's mentioning. Maybe I will stick to Windows and when I have time (and patients) give Linux a try.

And I agree with what many people say, accept for those who say indirectly that I shouldn't be having these issues because they didn't

How can I make my point more clear to you, you know what it doesn't matter cause in your head I have probably been dismissed as some dumb a$$ hat, so I wont bother because I have nothing important to say right?

And I was walking my dog...seriously
 
Old 07-26-2006, 08:15 PM   #266
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Ok, I get that many people enjoy Linux, as for have an easy time...I doubt that. Driver support alone should frustrate many.
Why? Linux ships with more drivers than any OS in history.
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I'm just adding a little counter weight, so people can maybe see that linux is not (FOR THE TIME BEING) a viable competitor to Microsoft.
In your opinion. Personally, I have been Microsoft free on my home PC since 1999. I would be Microsoft free at work too if it weren't for some custom industry specific software we use which doesn't work under Wine.
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You guys must admit that people who switch to Linux and then post in these forums are not average users,
Again, that is your opinion. I class myself as an average user and manage to use Linux with little difficulty. By occupation, I'm an accountant. The Linux logic sits well with me, even though according to you it shouldn't.
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there a probably many people who try it...don't like it and then switch back and never post a thing so you never hear from them.
It certainly seems to me like they always want to whinge about it. You're just another one. I bet there are hundreds of threads like this started just this year.

Let's get down to brass tacks: Linux frustrates you because it forces you to go back and learn the basic things you thought you already knew. It finds the holes in your knowledge, and because you consider yourself "a power user" the whole notion that there are holes in your knowledge is offensive to you.

Linux forces you to learn, but in my experience is well worth the effort.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 08:28 PM   #267
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"I use Linux as a voice. For example, the more websites I can visit using Linux the better, its my way of doing my bit and having a say."

I like the sound of that, despite many of the opinions I am sure people who are reading this have formed of me.

"It certainly seems to me like they always want to whinge about it. You're just another one. I bet there are hundreds of threads like this started just this year.

Let's get down to brass tacks: Linux frustrates you because it forces you to go back and learn the basic things you thought you already knew. It finds the holes in your knowledge, and because you consider yourself "a power user" the whole notion that there are holes in your knowledge is offensive to you.

Linux forces you to learn, but in my experience is well worth the effort."

Thanks professor Obvious, learning new things IS difficult, however my problem is not with learning, it is with the fact that many things are not working, and some of the things that are, don't work as well. Microsoft has its faults (a lot), I have had problems with MS installations before, but not since the pre 2000 days have I had so much simultaneous troubles as I do with Linux.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 08:31 PM   #268
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How can I make my point more clear to you, you know what it doesn't matter cause in your head I have probably been dismissed as some dumb a$$ hat, so I wont bother because I have nothing important to say right?
Sorry, my mistake.
Do you usually fly off the deep end and warn poeple never to try something when you are frustrated?
I wasn't aware...

Seriously, posting that you yourself have a problem and "warning everyone" about something are 2 completely different things.
I believe that you could have issues with or dislike Linux.
I do not think it is in everyone's interest to be warned that Linux is not useable in large part because that statement is false.

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Old 07-26-2006, 08:32 PM   #269
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I am likely going to get flamed for this,
Of course you are, you came here trolling with that subject.

If you mean to ask for help, ask for help, but don't waste bandwidth and clutter up search results here with your trolling.
 
Old 07-26-2006, 08:40 PM   #270
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"Sorry, my mistake.
Do you usually fly off the deep end warn poeple never to try something when you are frustrated?
I wasn't aware..."

"I didn't think I was doing this...you must be a very very calm guy. LOL I should meditate with you.

Seriously, posting that you yourself have a problem and "warning everyone" about something are 2 completely different things.
I believe that you could have issues with or dislike Linux.
I do not think it is in everyone's interest to be warned that Linux is not useable in large part because that statement is false."

So you are suggesting that an admin block my post for expressing my opinion, and trolling, I am not trolling (lol just looked that up). When does expressing an opinion become an instigation. This is not what I was trying to do, just cause I knew there would be flamming. Look at some of the responses to my post, they seem more like trolling or instigation.
 
  


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