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what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
errr...i don't know, what is UNIX afterall? 11 1.25%
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:44 AM   #196
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:30 AM   #197
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Thumbs down LINUX is a joke

I can't believe you Linux disciples. In the last week I've tried four different distributions and can't buy into any of them. Ubuntu - looked and felt great from the live cd but couldn't get it to boot after install to hard disk - I used 3 different install disks too. Kept getting GRUB errors - total waste of time - never seen anything like that with any version of windows. Vector Linux - detected my DLINK router ok and booted from HD ok but didn't look that good and felt quite geeky -software was hard to take seriously. Next tried Mandrake. Not keen anything using more than 1 cd - XP uses only one cd and so does ubuntu which looked and felt better. Connected to internet in fairness. Again, though, it just didn't feel nice to use.
Onto Suse 10.1 - 5 cds !!! or 1 DVD - took nearly 2 hours to install! No matter what I tried it wouldn't even see my router let alone connect to internet. Very sluggish compared with XP. Also, how is anyone let alone a newbie supposed to know what YAST means or does? Nerdy, esoteric interface designers strike again. Didn't give me an option to partition disk during install. Again, file management is stupid. Its like taking all the directories out of the windows directory and putting them in the root. Why not just have a Suse directory with all the OS stuff neatly tucked away a la windows.
The idea you would this sub-standard rubbish for anything serious is painful to think about. Thank God for the Gates/Jobs monopoly if it keeps these egocentric OS programmers marginalised. Apple Macs were ten times better than this nearly 20 years ago and ran nicely on low spec hardware by todays standards.
LINUX? BOLLUX!

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Old 07-13-2006, 08:37 AM   #198
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Very funny
 
Old 07-13-2006, 08:43 AM   #199
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oh well..

Have a good life.

bye.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 08:45 AM   #200
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If linux is that bad then why did you even take the time to post? Did you even try to get help for any of your problems? I am sure they could have gotten resloved.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 09:17 AM   #201
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I would stay as far away from Vista as I could if I were you. 14 gig install and hours of configuration. Networking still doesn't work right, drops my DSL carrier and can't find it without a reboot, file transfers are slow, nothing is where it is supposed to be in Windows, blah blah blah. If you don't want to "try" and make it work it won't. Stick with Win 98se.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 09:25 AM   #202
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YOU cant get it working, makes you a muppet, it's no reflection on Linux.

I found this whilst trying to help you with your problems

http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/b2/af/d8_1.JPG
 
Old 07-13-2006, 09:49 AM   #203
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I also not belief in Linux, my belief I reserve for gods and mothers, and you right “can't buy” because most of the stuff which called Linux is free. Ubuntu is maybe not my flavor, but still who in his right mind is going too critic something without experiencing it fully, not able to install may be prove of previous Windows dependency. Like Windows Modems, highly Windows depending chip sets from cheap motherboard manufactures with none-compatible BIOS's and printers that run on the Windows kernel (yes MS Windows also uses a Kernel)

I say you use very odd hardware, why of the standards, as you have to install software from Suse 10.1 disk 5 (a disk mostly known to ave only highly specific hardware and packages support) or you have one of the first CD-roms (a original 1x speed) ever produced ( in that case buy a 52 speed or 16 speed DVD rom)

If the first paragraphs are a indication for your hardware, I can understand that Suse cannot see you router, probably I'm as self acclaimed expert working for a telecom company not able to see your router. It is probably one of the USB modems which only support Windows, as it was cheap to buy, and probably you now only want to uses Linux because you shame yourself that MS Windows now start to show pop-up Windows which say that you are using a illegal version of Windows.

The good part is like this, most of your so-called made for Windows hardware will also not work with any new version of Windows, as they also restrict direct hardware calls.

I can say as open source supporter that we are happy that you in future will stay to support MS Windows, as you never had a official Licenses anyway, and surely not a supporter of open source, and really you not have to thank god, if you uses Windows just pay Gates..

And you have a Apple Mac? Or maybe a very old old Mac, one before OS-X because today Apple uses X.org which is the same as most Linux Distro's use.

All by all you win the funny posting awarded for this month......
 
Old 07-13-2006, 09:55 AM   #204
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Thanks ethics, that was just what I needed to cheer me up this morning. Nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

Timbuktu, Linux is not for everyone. Driving a sports car is not for everyone either. If you prefer to drive a Pinto, please, feel free. You're complaints sound more like a lack of willingness to learn something new.

If Windows is so much easier to use and install, come on over to my place. I have an older system that locks up everytime I try to install Windows, and there's nothing I can do about it. I haven't had a problem with it since I installed Slackware, over a year ago...
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:06 AM   #205
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What distribution of Linux is that?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ethics
YOU cant get it working, makes you a muppet, it's no reflection on Linux.

I found this whilst trying to help you with your problems
What distribution of Linux is that?
Does it come on ten DVDs?
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:15 AM   #206
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In all seriousness, i too shy away from distros on many CDs, with package managers, online repositories etc, i personally don't need all the cds, i can grab the required packages online. However some people do not have the luxury of large connections and so if they wanted all packages, would require all cds (yes, its the same problem to download/burn 10 cds, but if you order them from a stockist..).

I use arch, 1 cd, all the packages i need at install, afterwards pacman (package manager) all the way. Debian net install cd is something like 200 MB and gets ALL required packages off the net, debian full is 15 CDs (see explanation above). So basically, you have a wide array of choice in what you use.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:26 AM   #207
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Linux ain't no sportscar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chromezero

Timbuktu, Linux is not for everyone. Driving a sports car is not for everyone either. If you prefer to drive a Pinto, please, feel free. You're complaints sound more like a lack of willingness to learn something new.

If Windows is so much easier to use and install, come on over to my place.
I've installed either W2k or XP about thirty times on various machines in the last 6 months and never seen a GRUB loading error.
I asked experienced computer professionals about it and they said they'd never heard of GRUB. I also spent quite a few hours trying to get Suse to see my router to no avail, but learning a lot of new stuff about networking along the way. You can't make it easier for an operating system to see the internet than give it a network connection and Suse is supposed to be one of the best distributions - at the very least it made the process overcomplicated.

Perhaps your one of those folks that thinks users should spend ten hours with a manual before they even turn their machine on.

Linux ain't no sportscar by any stretch of the imagination.
Anybody whose used a Mac in the last ten years wouldn't spend
five minutes with Linux and if Microsoft's Windows system is so inferior how come Linux developers spend so much time trying to copy it?
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:31 AM   #208
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The reason I've stuck with linux (and yes, it can be hard work) is that for me there's more satisfaction when it does work. Also, I prefer the open source model of creating software. Ok, so at the moment you're right to a certain extent - things don't work out of the box: sometimes that's a problem with the software, sometimes that's a problem with the hardware manufacturers not giving enough information out on how it really works, either way, with time that can be overcome. However, and this is why I like open source, it does get better with time. Although I've only been using Linux for a little while now, I can see that since its conception, it has come along in leaps and bounds. So despite the fact it's not as easy as Mircosoft operating systems are, it's heading in the right direction.

And if you don't find what you're looking for straight away, if you look for a little while, you will probably find a distribution which suits you. It could be, of course, that the distribution which suits you best is Microsoft's.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:31 AM   #209
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timbuktu, I too have a computer that consistently crashes Windows, but has been running Linux From Scratch flawlessly for about 4 months now. While I'm not a complete n00b in Linux, I can't consider myself a system administrator either. I had a great deal of help in installing Linux From Scratch, and I can reliably install Slackware now on any machine with a CD Drive without too much assistance.

I also run 3 LEGAL Windows machines, and while I don't use either of my Linux machines as a desktop, I wouldn't trade them for anything in the world (except maybe a bigger and better server.) Your choice of distros to try out seems to me to be lacking effore to find a real n00b version of Linux. There are so many LiveCD choices that can be easily configured for your particular machine, and you seem to have many excuses for not liking Linux. Let me address the big one...

Quote:
Not keen anything using more than 1 cd - XP uses only one cd and so does ubuntu which looked and felt better.
Dude... I can get Windows to fit on a Business card CD-R... fully functional with all the same features of the regular - and likely illegal - version you have on your computer. Guess what, I can do the same with just about any Linux Distro... Once a system is configured and stable, you can make an install disk to only install the things you have put on it. The reason Linux Distros come with multiple CDs is so you have options. If every Distro had one CD, most would look the same except for minor modifications to the GUI based on the distro. Slackware for instance has 4CDs in it's current stable version. CD1 is the install disk, and 99% of Slackware's users don't need anything more than this disk. CD2 has extra, optional components that you likely don't need unless you are a system adminstrator... CD 3 and 4... hell, I don't know what's on them, as I've never gotten past using disk 2. Most often, extra CDs may just have a big folder full of different Kernels which you can choose from to best match your computer's hardware. Of course, custom compiling is almost always better than picking a kernel off the CD, but for n00bs like j0o, there is nothing wrong with that.

Finally, before I go rambling and say something entirely retarded that may get me flamed, it seems like you think that each Distro you tried is a separate and different OS from the others... While each distro has it's own bells and whistles, they are all based on the same kernel... maybe a different version of said kernel, but the same kernel none the less. I would seriously suggest you go buy a n00b book like "Linux for Dummies" - which comes with a CD of distros, or the current version of "The Linux Bible" which comes with a DVD full of distros and a Knoppix LiveCD, which I think you'll find is right up your alley... It looks just like Windows, or as much as a Linux OS CAN look like Windows... It's about as functional as Windows while you are booted from the CD, so it'll be perfect for you... lol

By the way... thanks for the hilarious post... it was a great start to my day.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 10:32 AM   #210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbuktu
What distribution of Linux is that?
I'm almost certain it runs on Linux, because if you notice it says, "Let's learn together!"
 
  


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