I have to agree. Both OS's have a good side and both have a bad side. The reason for me in liking linux was not this holy war that is going on between Linux and Windows. I began using Linux becuase I got interested in Unix where I currently work. However I would like to see linux gain more marketshare.

For one, There are not that many technical Unix and Linux professionals compared to Windows. This would help create more jobs.

The other reason is that by increasing market share hopefully windows will drop the price. Also by creating competing products both will strive to do better.

I wouldn't want Linux gain a monopoly though because then it could turn out like microsoft in terms of overpriced product. However with both of them coexisting it creates a better market.

As Far as the Bill Gatest is Evil (I like to instigate things everynow and then so I say he is the
yes he is an evil genius.)

Originally posted by jstephens84:
I don't see M$ dropping their price or striving to do better on account of Linux. Steve Ballmer of M$ is making noises that sound very much as if he intends to try and force Linux out.
If he's a genius at all, then he's not a computer genius but a business genius and a voracious predator at that.

Yes, but noise is all Baller is making, nothing more, nothing less. Well, OK, he is making something less. (Vista)

@[KIA]aze: Window Maker is a very light-weight window manager that very succesfully mimics NeXTstep enviroment. It takes a second to load and has everything one needs for effective application/window managing. It's not a desktop enviroment, although most desktopish of window managers like fluxbox. It's also modular like every else window manager out there, meaning that it doesn't have built-in folder view, but if needed I for example use Thunar in it.
It supports KDE & Gnome applications and enviroments through their libraries seamlessly. I can for example launch Synaptic or file browser of Gnome at will.

My weapon of choice, but sadly developement for it seems to be halted.

EDIT: give it a shot, after start confusion with menu editing and docking apps you'll see no return to start-menu based megalostastics.

Thats sad, I like WindowMaker a lot.
Just wonder why they never got to version 1.0;
IMO, 0.92 is about as stable as ANY user may ever demand.

Yeah but it has two small nuisances. Hardcoded:
- docked apps require doubleclick always. no way to change that.
- no way to hide the dock

Just wish I could code.

Well, you can middle-click once to launch an app on the dock...but it would be nice if the dock could hide too.....

Learn how to code right now!!

All Adobe apps: Premiere, Photoshop, Reader, etc...

All Sony media editing apps: Vegas, Sound Forge, Acid, etc...

And Fruity Loops would be nice.

One more, Google Earth!

I'd like to share some of my thoughts about Linux vs. Windows...

What I don't like about windows is that once you found a bug, you can't fix it, even if you know that you could possibly fix it. All you'll have to do in that case is wait for patch. The patch, of course, will introduce several new bugs. I was once lucky to find a bug in a system function I've been using...

With Linux I can fix almost everything that have source code in programming language I can understand. However, to do this, I'll need sometimes to dig tons of information...

With windows, I'll have to upgrade my hardware too often, even if the new software could have been optimized.
Linux have drivers for old hardware, system can be optimized (switching desktop to a lightweight one, etc...)
On other hand, Linux often doesn't support newest hardware.

What's really bad with windows is that Microsoft sometimes tends to do things in some strange and ugly way...
Here are some examples:
Right now I'm installing a service pack for visual studio 2005, I started this thing about a 2 hours ago and installation is still running. (It looks like it'll need at least a one more hour to complete) I know that my hardware isnt THAT bad, and see no reason for such a long installation.
To run this installation I had to repartition my hard drive, since installer dumps temporary files to a Temp directory on C:\ and I can't make it to use another directory easily.
And the thing that made me install this thing was the new Microsoft dll loading system, that caused one of my C++ projects compile but crash upon starting (LDR fatal error - can't parse manifest), since they were linked with external libraries, that used slightly different CRT dll version.

At the beginning of this year, my hardware broke down(somehow motherboard managed to fry itself). When I bought a new hardware I've got a serious trouble - I couldn't run my old system in any mode, since motherboard was changed, I couldn't run system recovery (to fix the problem), since both my drives were converted to NTFS and at that point I didn't had a bootable CD with recovery, and, of course, DOS installation utility doesn't understand NTFS partitions. So I had to reinstall the whole system (destroying the data on system partition), and most of the settings were lost, since they were scattered in various branches of registry (most Windows programs doesn't tell where they store settings, right?)... Because of this right now I think that the best way to store settings is how the Linux programs does it - in human-readable text format in specific declared places...

A note about ErV's post. What complete nutter would come up with something as badly planned and as messy as the windows registry? I mean, it's an alright idea keeping everything in one easy to find, easy to maintain location. but not when it's implemented like that.

I much prefer Linux's way of putting settings either with the executable or in a folder in your home folder. Nice and neat, and if it has to put anything elsewhere, at least it will be somewhere logical. (Yes, I'm rambling, it's been a bad day...)

I sympathize with your location: I started off in the cupbord under the stairs, but then I met www.modfree.org!

Regarding the thread:
Microsoft has the saving grace of bringing me to Linux, where I feel that it is worthwhile to make any contribution. Microsoft makes me feel selfish, Linux makes me feel like giving because it was given to me, FREE..........................enter harps, violins, butterflies etc. :-)

If you're talking about apps which should exist for Linux:
Google Earth works on linux too.
And there is also NASA Worldwind, but it's slower and less fun (but more useful for science and stats apparently).
What's weird is that Worldwind is open-source, but there is no version of it for Linux... (edit: is under development already )

And Acrobat reader works on Linux too of course, as does adobe Flash. (FOSS alternatives: Evince and Gnash)

Why do you want Froot Loops under Linux?
We don't need those overpriced Kellogs products there! ^^

I like LMMS. When it is finished, it will probably be better than fruity loops - it is pretty impressive now, and will only get better with time.

Hello to All. I just want to know why do people who work on linux are more in love with it than Windows. I myself am a new user and I want to know why does linux appeal more than Windows to us and not to people who are stuck with it?

Why do some people think that Windows is easier and not Linux?

All answers are welcome, I just want to know a general opinion. I would appreciate if everyone could possibly leave their signature which have a remark on Windows or Linux.

By the way I recently installed Ubuntu and it rocks but I want to know why do you think it rocks?

-AJ

Well, I have to say there ARE times when things are easier to do in Windoze (use the mis-spelling is deliberate). BUT except for a few flavors - Linux has for the most part proven to be more stable in most situations. Admitively Windoze started to be fairly stable once Micro$haft started using the NTFS file system instead of FAT32, however, there are still other issues, some they Micro$haft themselves ADDED recently!
Examples, first off if you prefer to build your own machine (I do), if you wish to use Windoze on it - to do it legally will cost you something like $300-$400, unless you want a stripped down version of it, and even then it's a bit on the expensive side, unless you buy an upgrade only version of it (that would mean that if you do need to re-install the OS, you need to first load an older version of Windoze, just to run the upgrade to get to the current version of it). PRODUCT ACTIVATION is another problem with it! Having to contact either a server, OR a actual person just to have a fully working OS that will not stop working for you in a month is ridiculous, piticurally when you already had to enter a 25 character long alpha-numeric key just to install it!, and if you make too many hardware changes once this is done initally, you need to go through all that AGAIN, only now you will HAVE to call Micro$hat to do it, and you are at there mercy wether or not to allow it to be re-activated with the hardware changes. They are also way to secretive with there source code.
Linux on the other hand, can be gotten free (of charge) and even if you do opt for a paid for version of it, it dose not cost that much really. You never have any hastle at all installing it, hardware changes may cost you time to re-configure the system, but that's it. With a free (of charge) version you may not get support on it from the distributor, but it's fairly easy to find the help you need on the Internet - and even if your problem IS that you can not connect to the Internet with it (and Linux is the only OS you have installed), any more you can still get access to the Internet (at no charge) at most public libraries, and you can also find plenty of books dealing with Linux there, and several (more up to date info) magizines, and books in most book stores without spending a fortune. There is also the fact that if you do not like something about the way Linux is working for you, if you know how to write program code, the source code is available to you, and you are actually encouraged to modify it to suit your needs.
And (just my opinion) somehow Linux just feels more like a REAL OS, where Windoze feels more like a toy!