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Old 02-15-2003, 10:58 PM   #1
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Terrorism related loss of freedoms finally hits home.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/...03/2767453.stm

Most of the other "security" measures implemented in the wake of 9/11 haven't really affected me, but now it's personal. I've always loved reading about the new and complex biotech research published in the major journals, and now it looks as though they'll only be publishing the boring stuff. For someone who has a high aptitude in microbiology and genetics but can't afford university, the science journals have been an important tool for keeping me up to date untill I get the opportunity for higher education. I now feel as though I'll be locked out of some of the more important advances that may arise in the future, and the loss is a major blow to me. This action may not affect a whole lot of people, but that doesn't mean it isn't an injustice to free science. I don't know if there is anyone else here who is interested in this sort of thing.
 
Old 02-15-2003, 11:01 PM   #2
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I joined the navy and they're paying me to take classes at MIT and Tulane! Plus I get to work with nuclear reactors!
 
Old 02-16-2003, 12:13 AM   #3
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Plus I get to work with nuclear reactors!
There's good money in it. My dad was a reactor operator, and got his start in the Navy on a sub. He's now a private contractor, and makes a very healthy wage.
 
Old 02-16-2003, 02:38 AM   #4
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One of the recruiters where I live is a navy nuclear engineer and when he was taking a tour of the power plant in my state he was offered a job on the spot with a starting salary of $75000 /yr.
 
Old 02-16-2003, 06:34 AM   #5
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There's good money in it. My dad was a reactor operator, and got his start in the Navy on a sub. He's now a private contractor, and makes a very healthy wage.
Homer Simpson never did that.

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Old 02-18-2003, 07:03 PM   #6
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yeah, but homer simpson certainly wasn't an engeneer and he did't exactly work
 
Old 02-19-2003, 03:04 PM   #7
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There is alot of Homeland security that really needs to be challenged, and believe me that moment my rights are violated is the moment that the US government has a problem.

I really right much of anything serious, but when it comes down to it, I am probably among the most defiant and stubborn people on this planet, and when I get on a rampage, you better be prepared.

This whole Homeland Security crap is just a way to get more control over the people of the country rathe rthan increase our security. I have not seen anything that will help prevent any terrorist attacks in the future, but certainly helps to ease rights and conduct illegal searches.
 
Old 02-19-2003, 03:57 PM   #8
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I agree with you stephanie, but I doubt there is anyway to stand up to anything the government does that's seems good for the public. Anyone smart enough to realize that they are just giving their rights away is in the minority and the people not smart enough are in majority.

We are ruled by the masses of stupid people. So you've just got to learn to deal with it. So as the saying goes, "Life sucks and then you die."
 
Old 02-20-2003, 02:59 PM   #9
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We are ruled by the masses of stupid people. So you've just got to learn to deal with it. So as the saying goes, "Life sucks and then you die."
How true that is, god George Bush is president. I have something to contribute to the stupidy of this country, the news telling everone with a TV the military plans. Just hope our enemies aren't getting it. Iraq can just turn CNN on to aviod our traps.

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Old 02-20-2003, 05:16 PM   #10
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How true that is, god George Bush is president. I have something to contribute to the stupidy of this country, the news telling everone with a TV the military plans. Just hope our enemies aren't getting it. Iraq can just turn CNN on to aviod our traps.
sounds like the white house may actually be killing 2 birds w/ 1 stone. Not only do we misinform the general public and saddam (doubt he's that stupid) but we also increase our support in the war by making it sound like we really know what we're doing.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 05:50 PM   #11
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Hurry up with your ethnic cleansing so these imaginary terrorists can go away.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 05:57 PM   #12
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Oh yeah, and make sure to steal the oil, because I'm tired of the high prices.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 06:07 PM   #13
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what makes you guys think you know what's going on? In any case, what would motivate GW to attack Iraq and don't just tell me oil.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 06:19 PM   #14
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what makes you guys think you know what's going on? In any case, what would motivate GW to attack Iraq and don't just tell me oil.
I think thats what alot of people resent, that GWB isn't saying his real reason for war, and the reasons he has given are just excuses for the purpose of gaining support. His main reason(in public) is to remove WMD's , but that is obviously not the real main reason, and I for one won't even consider supporting someone who offers disinformation and lies instead of good honest truth. Are his reasons really so bad that he can't say them? I oppose war mainly on principle of being lied to, and probably would have supported war if they had the guts to tell us flat out why. And don't bother offering me reasons why war is good, because GWB's main stated reason is WMD's and that is not his real main reason(thus he is lying, thus I wont support him). BTW liars and manipulators SUCK, and are cowards.
 
Old 02-20-2003, 06:31 PM   #15
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Bush wants to remove the nuclear weapons that nobody can find. They also want to reduce the terrorism so that no group of six terrorists carrying butter knives ever boarder a plane again. And they want to take the oil, and help the Arab Israelis whipe out the Arab muslims. And then Bush wants to have a big oil bath while he plans on building his Microsoft empire through empirialism.
 
  


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