LinuxQuestions.org
LinuxAnswers - the LQ Linux tutorial section.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices

View Poll Results: What is your system admin like?
Reliable and effient. 13 29.55%
Slow but works well. 6 13.64%
Lazy and unproductive. 9 20.45%
Paranoid, overly sensative, etc. 9 20.45%
#4 but add Solitaire and pizza 7 15.91%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Search this Thread
Old 04-03-2007, 03:04 PM   #1
phantom_cyph
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: My HDD...
Distribution: WinXP for designing, Linux for life.
Posts: 2,329
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 47
Thumbs down System administrator...stupid?


I know many of us visit places such as schools or work that have network/system administrators, and I also know they tend to be paranoid and easily feel threatened. What is the admin like around you? I know the one I deal with is paranoid, highly trained in Solitaire and eating pizza.
 
Old 04-03-2007, 03:23 PM   #2
rocket357
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2007
Location: 127.0.0.1
Distribution: OpenBSD-CURRENT
Posts: 474
Blog Entries: 100

Rep: Reputation: 74
The company I currently work for recently switched IT Directors (about 4-5 months ago). The original Admin I didn't know well (he left just as I was hiring on), but the new one has been easy and laid back, but far from stupid or "unaware". His first order of business was to tighten security by deploying a few OpenBSD boxes in strategic places on our network (firewalls, DNS, etc...). Now he's testing PostgreSQL as a replacement for our MS SQL databases.

He's a contributor to both FreeBSD and OpenBSD, and when I jokingly said I'd like to have another computer so I could run Gentoo on it, he hunted one down and had it to me within a few hours. Very cool guy.
 
Old 04-03-2007, 03:46 PM   #3
alienux
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Distribution: Slackware 12, Fedora Core, PCLinuxOS
Posts: 194

Rep: Reputation: 30
You left off the option for "I'm the system administrator."

System administrators often have rules that are necessary for reasons you may not be aware of. This hardly makes them paranoid. Sure, there are bad admins out there who are lazy, and sometimes do things just to somehow make themselves feel powerful, but you shouldn't assume this without having more information. Network security should be high on the list of important items of a good admin, and sometimes this means doing things that an end user may see as "paranoid" or "stupid," but as I said, in most of those situations the end user doesn't have all of the information, and just doesn't understand that there are real reasons for certain policies and/or restrictions, etc.
 
Old 04-03-2007, 04:15 PM   #4
phantom_cyph
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: My HDD...
Distribution: WinXP for designing, Linux for life.
Posts: 2,329
Blog Entries: 1

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 47
Well, see, at the school I used to go to, the admin was open to suggestions, laid back and extremely efficient, but not at the school I go to now, he is a jerk. He does his work by personal interest, and sets up appointments in which I am to meet him and he is never there. I am glad they aren't all like that...
 
Old 04-03-2007, 05:17 PM   #5
indienick
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: London, ON, Canada
Distribution: Arch, Ubuntu, Slackware, OpenBSD, FreeBSD
Posts: 1,853

Rep: Reputation: 65
The sysadmin at my old high school was a mix of 3, and 5. The sysadmin at my most recent high school...well, I never see him/her/it/them.

But with the old sysadmin, he would do NOTHING aside from stare at the netlogs scroll by, and see which one of us was pissing around with the network - we were a select group of, about five, and let me tell you, he LOVED us. *cough*
 
Old 04-03-2007, 06:31 PM   #6
dasy2k1
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: 127.0.0.1
Distribution: Ubuntu 12.04 X86_64
Posts: 956

Rep: Reputation: 34
our sysadmin at school was paranoid. we coulen use floppy disks usb pens or any other removable storage, and the PCs werw screwed into the desk! so if one crashed you had to turn off the power to the whole room to reset it.
you had to change your password every 2 weeks and you coudlent use one you had ever used before (they had to be at leas 10 caricters long and had to contain, upper case, lower case and numbers)

we diddnt have email.
you couldnt view PDFs on the web as it thoght you were downloding somthing


to print more than 5 pages you had to get special dispensation in teh form of a signed slip from your teacher with the file name on it (the sysadmion would print ity for you )

if you reallly neeeded to ransfer a file to teh network you could give the disk to the sysadmin who would virus scan it several times with diffenrt clients on a sand alone machine before copying the file over.
so many phrases were banned on websites that the short form of seconds (secs) would block the site and add the domain to the blacklist for evermore.


hen he moaned that he was overworked
 
Old 04-03-2007, 09:26 PM   #7
St.Jimmy
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Boaz,Alabama
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10 / Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Snow Leopard 10.6.4 64-Bit
Posts: 152

Rep: Reputation: 30
At my local library, the sysadmin is an old woman who refuses to believe the cables are wrong, never upgrades, basiclly knows nothing. 5 miles away the lib computers are so you can't log on if your under 18 without a parent. 24 miles away, the sysadmins are the only thing stopping one of my friends from switching to Linux! Uuugh...
 
Old 04-03-2007, 10:11 PM   #8
Shade
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Burke, VA
Distribution: RHEL, Slackware, Ubuntu, Fedora
Posts: 1,418
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 46
Well...

I am the Sys Admin where I work. Hmm, I see some folks in our office have voted incorrectly.

Now, where is my ether-killer...
 
Old 04-03-2007, 10:18 PM   #9
nonades
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: VTC, VT
Distribution: Fedora 11
Posts: 46

Rep: Reputation: 15
My college just hired a new Network/Sys Admin last semester, one of my friends

He's a really cool guy that knows his stuff.
 
Old 04-04-2007, 12:59 AM   #10
Micro420
Senior Member
 
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA
Distribution: Mac OS X Leopard 10.6.2, Windows 2003 Server/Vista/7/XP/2000/NT/98, Ubuntux64, CentOS4.8/5.4
Posts: 2,986

Rep: Reputation: 45
I voted for "slow but works well" because I am the systems administrator for my work. I get the job done, but I know I could be more efficient and productive. Most of the time I am surfing the web or taking an afternoon walk.
 
Old 04-04-2007, 04:45 AM   #11
brianL
LQ 5k Club
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware & Slackware64 14.1
Posts: 6,702
Blog Entries: 51

Rep: Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243Reputation: 1243
I am my system administrator, so naturally I voted "lazy and unproductive".
 
Old 04-04-2007, 05:17 AM   #12
Lordandmaker
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: London, UK
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 258

Rep: Reputation: 38
Since I've had no cause to speak to him in the last two years, save to report that a PC's not booting, i'll go with 'Reliable and efficient'.
 
Old 04-04-2007, 07:50 AM   #13
trickykid
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2001
Posts: 24,133

Rep: Reputation: 194Reputation: 194
I'm one of several other sysadmins. I'm sort of considered senior to the rest since most of them started here fresh out of college and I'm only 28, most of them are 25 or younger. Most of them I'd consider novice sysadmins, they've never worked anywhere else and got lucky as the company I work for hired fresh college grads, but then realized they needed some experience.

The only problem is they still don't know their shit and since they've "technically" been here longer than me, they have seniority and don't listen most of the time, so I just sit back and let them learn their lesson.

Let me tell you the frustrations at times trying to tell my supervisor (only because he's been here for 3 years and is the worst manager in the world by all standards) who's only 25 how it should be done, when I only view him as a young immature frat boy.. I feel older everyday..

I'm sufficient, fast and respond when necessary.. there is one other guy here that is a little bit older than me who is the same. The rest are slow, can't manage time and goof off way too much and lack a lot of experience. They learned from the previous frat boys that started here before them and scared when I mention something they're unfamiliar with cause they don't understand it or not willing to learn. Hopefully one day they'll all grow up, but I'll be long gone by then..
 
Old 04-04-2007, 08:28 AM   #14
Crito
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
Distribution: Kubuntu 9.04
Posts: 1,168

Rep: Reputation: 53
I didn't understand the question. Can we schedule a two hour meeting to discuss it? Preferably in the morning so I can skip breakfast and scarf down some free bagels.
 
Old 04-04-2007, 08:49 AM   #15
dasy2k1
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: 127.0.0.1
Distribution: Ubuntu 12.04 X86_64
Posts: 956

Rep: Reputation: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shade
Well...

Now, where is my ether-killer...

owch!!! that woudl kill just about anything ethernet related
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Linux Build Engineer Vs System Administrator emailssent General 7 12-06-2008 10:19 PM
Need Sun Certified System Administrator for solaris 10 capricorn80 Solaris / OpenSolaris 6 12-09-2006 02:58 PM
Sun Certified System Administrator Anyone? Crito Linux - Certification 0 09-25-2006 11:18 PM
Root's account has been disable by system administrator Tidus4Yuna Red Hat 4 11-15-2005 11:41 PM
system administrator job linuxjobs Linux - General 2 08-23-2004 07:23 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:54 AM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration