rofl, man you really are the perfect prole aren't you. "Just accept it and live your life". lol

BTW, even been to Somalia ?

Oh, and here you go:

CBS News Washington Unplugged: H1N1 Cases Exaggerated?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...estimated.aspx

This is from July, which was after the initial outbreak but before the fall onset of the season. If you look at a chart of the Spanish flu (also H1N1), you would see that the result in the CBS is referring to are probably to be expected at that stage of an outbreak. In other words, Marcola is drawing incorrect conclusions from the data and it confirms my earlier suspicion that he is a liar. And I'm not alone. The FDA ordered him to stop lying. And if you look at the rest of his website, you'll find an amazingly HUGE products section, which tells me he has a financial motive to create as much controversy as possible. It drives people to his website where they buy his stuff. Can you say conflict of interest? And more importantly, why are you trusting the word of a proven quack?

What's the likelihood of government intervention with all of this? I still don't know anyone personally that has the flu, but a lot of people I know (because they either work in a hospital, or work in a school) have heard all kinds of horror stories about the flu from the CDC and the people who try to interpret the CDC and regurgitate some BS facts back to them, or whatever (or maybe there's just so many people with the flu, that I don't even notice it when I'm surrounded by hundreds of people, or maybe they all stayed home.))

The FDA (the bunch of bastards) have threatened a lot of people. However, many of the things he says are true, fluoridation, amalgam, etc.

The natural remedies he puts out, although I don't believe in them too much, as long as they do no harm (which they seem inoffensive), there's no problem. Usually these remedies, because they have not been proven to cure anything, have a label that states this, and thus complies with the FDA (but then chemotherapy has an efficacy of about 2% ... is that a cure ?, I think these remedies will do just fine). If he didn't do it, then he should add the labels. However, I would say that it is a crime to outlaw these remedies, some of them may actually work, even if only at a placebo level.

Some more news:
http://www.reuters.com/article/healt...59N19E20091024

Finally, now the show can begin.

My country has begun receiving shipments of vaccine, so I will be getting mine as soon as possible.

I think it's definitely scare tactics. I'm not sure if the virus actually exists at all, and I think it's gonna be hard to prove it either way. I mean what they say goes, no matter what they say, what other sources of info do we have ? I do have some MDs whom I know, and I've talked to them about it, and they said that I shouldn't worry about it at the moment, it's not as bad as they (gubmint and CDC) say. But then, what if soon, all that changes ? What if the real slim shady shows up ? Probably, I will head to a place far away from other people ... that way I don't have to worry about who knows what they put in the vaccine or its efficacy at doing something. My main concern is that another Baxter-like accident will happen and will cause an epidemic or pandemic that would otherwise be impossible without vaccine + accident, you know.

I agree, get it as soon as you can, don't think, don't worry, don't read, just do it ASAP ... then you will have no fear.

The following is from here:
And you're worried about mercury in your vaccine.

Furthermore:
In the US, the FDA is prevented from regulating herbal remedies, so the idea that they will voluntarily label their stuff correctly is laughable. Furthmore, the FDA stopped Mercola from lying about the effectiveness of his products. If he is lying about what they do, why wouldn't he lie about what they contain?

In fact, if you do any reasearch at all into "natural" remedies, you'll find that huge numbers of products are contaminated with stuff that makes thimerosol and squalene look as benign as a bologna sandwich.
Yeah. Right. Helping communities and hospitals deal with an epidemic is an intrinsically horrible thing for government to do. What could Obama possibly be thinking. Better to let the bastards suffer and die. Serves 'em right for getting sick in the first place.

"Threatened a lot of people". Very vague, but possibly true considering the amount of snake oil salesmen around out to make a quick but off some helpless sap who doesn't know any better.

And now fluoridation as well? It just never ends with you...

Again, utter bullshit. Just like prayer does no harm, people can be taking these "remedies" instead of seeking proper medical attention.
Remember the girl whose parents let her die because they believed that prayer could cure her diabetes?
Same thing here, just swap out "prayer" for "natural remedies" and the outcome would have been the same. Now, had she been taken to a doctor...


"May work" is not good enough when there are lives at stake.
And by the way, do these "remedies" even have a label detailing the contents? And have they been tested to confirm that said contents exist in the amounts the "potion-maker" claims? And what about trace elements and contaminants.
Where were the "remedies" produced? In labs and in production facilities that adhere to strict hygiene standards? Or in the guy's kitchen sink?

Well, Asian medicines ... since when has China not included some heavy metals and toxic colorings with your everything you buy from them ? Come on, we're talking about the herbs themselves not heavy metals that some corrupt govn't fails to regulate. Don't worry about the FDA, BTW, because they're in bed with Big Pharma, they'll pass anything that comes their way.

OMFG, seriously?!
You are the one that has repeatedly failed to read ANY of the peer-reviwed papers and articles that Hangdog42 has posted and continue to fetch your "information" from conspiracy websites, yet you think I haven't read enough about the topic?

Had YOU read any of the credible sources posted in this thread, you would have retracted your pathetic "vaccines contain mercury" claim, yet you're STILL using it.
That argument has been flattened with a steam-roller, minced and packaged into sausages, and fed to a pack of starving dogs.

Lastly, this post:

Shows a complete and utter ignorance of even the most basic understanding of what vaccines are supposed to be used for and how they work.
You sound like those folk who say "evolution can't be tru 'cauze teh universe can't 'splode from not'ing, yukyukyuk!", and don't realize that they don't even know what the theory of evolution by natural selection is.

As far as science goes, you are pretty much in the same category as Kent Hovind, IMHO.

Another article, this time about swine flu cases being overestimated.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...estimated.aspx

Ayurveda, one of the forms of traditional Asian medicine, uses copious amounts of heavy metals its "remedies".

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...ct/292/23/2868

Just read the part in the abstract about the chemical makeup of some of those remedies (elemental mercury is 20225 µg/g!) and STFU.
Shows what they know about biology.

The stuff sold in the US is no better. When yo consistently see failures in the 20%-30% range, there is a definite problem in the industry.

Um, if the herbs have a measurable problem 30% of the time, that is a problem. At least in my book.
Tell that to Big Pharma. Recent estimates are that 1 in 10,000 compounds make it through the approval process. Heck, the failure rate in Phase III trials alone is about 15%. By the way, none of the herbal remedy jockeys like Mercola are held to standards anywhere near this difficult. They just jam their crap in a bottle and let you cough up your dough.