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Old 11-07-2012, 06:16 PM   #16
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Nowadays the OS is not that important anymore. If a user runs Firefox, Vlc and Libreoffice as main applications, maybe an additional mail client like Thunderbird or Claws Mail, just to get his/her stuff done, the underlying OS is not important at all, anything will work.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #17
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So AMD is also x86 or x86-64 architecture in spite of not being Intel? Of the four categories defined by you, where would a programmer feel comfortable without expending too much? Again I guess it'll depend on the kink of programs he writes. I knew machines based on Z80 and even bought one of those processors to see if I could make it work by myself. But I had to fall back on a columnist from the Byte magazine.

Well ... I'm being offered a machine built around an Intel G620 processor, which somewhere I learn is intended for use in entry level desktops (euphemism for low cost). At least I shall still be within Intel, though, as johnsfine seems to imply, there would be little difference if it were AMD. I think by now I have a couple of elementary concepts well defined. Thanks a lot. And thanks to johnsfine too.
You asked about 'divisions' of computers...

I would say that the CPU manufacturer is a 'division', being only 2, for the most part; AMD, and Intel.

And I think AMD is less expensive, most factors / specifications being equal.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 07:21 PM   #18
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You asked about 'divisions' of computers...

I would say that the CPU manufacturer is a 'division', being only 2, for the most part; AMD, and Intel.

And I think AMD is less expensive, most factors / specifications being equal.
Yes and, hence, (almost) everything happens as if there is only one class, given both employ, at present, the x86(-64) architecture. This would have been a relief for me, in the case I had chosen AMD because, once in a while, I would like to play directly with the instruction set instructions themselves. And now that I know one of the most basic things within my computer, I'm ready to post about hard disks and the booting process on which, I know, there is plenty of literature for beginners like me. Which I'll do in this thread or most probable in a new thread. Thanks everyone for their kind assistance.
 
Old 11-08-2012, 10:50 AM   #19
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Nowadays the OS is not that important anymore. If a user runs Firefox, Vlc and Libreoffice as main applications, maybe an additional mail client like Thunderbird or Claws Mail, just to get his/her stuff done, the underlying OS is not important at all, anything will work.
But the above applies to divisions of architecture and processor as well.

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Clerical - For office use, doesn't need multimedia, and generally just enough RAM to run a spreadsheet or a large word processor document.
General - Lightweight use, average home use. Reading emails, watch a couple vids from the internet, listen to music, etc.
Multimedia - Watching, editing and/or creating movies/music, Detailed graphics manipulation, desktop publishing
Gaming - High-end graphics, high speed processing, top-end 2-way sound for chatting real-time with the other folks you are playing with/against in the latest FPS or MMO game.
The use categories that ShadowCat8 suggested seem most useful and explain pricing and architecture choices along with things not even mentioned like peripherals.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 01:29 PM   #20
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a). Thanks for making me feel ancient.
b). The divisions by architecture or expected use make sense to me, but I'm surprised nobody mentioned OS. I don't know that it's any more appropriate than architecture, but OS is certainly a clear dividing point.
Well, I think if we were all stuck in the windoze world, it might make sense to include OS differences since there are distinct levels of support for both services and peripherals depending on which version of the OS you buy from M$. But, I think for the purpose of this thread, OS is a bit superfluous. We're discussing linux, and the key thing to watch out for in linux nowadays is just the differences between x86 and x86_64 (a.k.a. amd64.)

And, @vmccord: Don't feel too bad... At least you didn't date yourself with a reference to the Timex/Sinclair! ;-p hehe
But, if you *really* want to hear differences between some of the older architectures, you may want to find a copy of a computer filk song called "I've Built A Better Model Than The One At Data General". Hehe

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:19 AM   #21
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