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06-17-2010, 05:12 AM
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Real difference between desktops and laptops
I suggest to continue this theme: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...2/#post4004470 .
Is laptop's hardware really that worse then desktop's?
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06-17-2010, 06:15 AM
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I had plenty of money in times of desktop with ide connectors so i bought many. All these old ide computers parts from same era give me perfect compatibility.
Note that pci-card/hard drive is still so mobile that you can go anywhere with it. Example.
When you scale from workstation->laptop->netbook->cellphone you get mobility, but in most cases it gives you less other features for same $$$.
Last edited by yooy; 06-17-2010 at 06:38 AM.
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06-17-2010, 06:45 AM
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When you scale from workstation->laptop->netbook->cellphone you get mobility, but in most cases it gives you less other features for same $$$.
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...and (at least when you reach the netbook/smartphone scale) less performance.
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06-17-2010, 02:13 PM
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As mobility increases so does price to maintain the same performance ratio and at some point performance can't keep up while miniaturization continues until the technology expands to smaller components.
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06-17-2010, 02:35 PM
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Reasons why I don't like laptops:
- they overheat = problems with heat dissipation
- you can't access the hardware easily, in fact it's very difficult to change anything in a laptop
- hardware components are significantly more expensive than desktop components, a new HDD for may laptop cost double what a similar one would for a desktop, so did the RAM, even tho it was old DDR SDRAM
- the laptop itself is more expensive than a similar desktop
- laptops always lag behind in performance compared to desktops
Only reason to buy one is portability, but I don't need that.
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06-17-2010, 02:41 PM
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- laptops always lag behind in performance compared to desktops
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Maybe it's because I'd never had a machine with more than one CPU core before until I got this laptop (  ), but if this thing, with its Core i5 CPU, 4 GiB of RAM, and NVIDIA GeForce 310M GPU w/ 512 MiB VRAM is considered "lagging behind", then I can only imagine what a modern high-end desktop is capable of... <starts drooling>
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- they overheat = problems with heat dissipation
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The only real "heat problem" I've had is it getting my lap a little toasty. Other than that, there have been no real problems. So far there haven't been any strange hardware malfunctions (like random reboots, graphics acting funny, things being really slow overall, etc.) that I have experienced... :\
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06-17-2010, 02:46 PM
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I have an Intel i7 920 with 12g of ram and a Radeon 4870x2 and I gotta say, it pretty well is completely awesome  I like it a lot and it ran me less than 1500$... a laptop of similiar performance, if I could actually find one, would run me more than 4k... which I'm not paying.
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06-17-2010, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
- they overheat = problems with heat dissipation
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Sometimes
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- you can't access the hardware easily, in fact it's very difficult to change anything in a laptop
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RAM, HDD, sometimes video chip are all easily acceptable.
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- hardware components are significantly more expensive than desktop components, a new HDD for may laptop cost double what a similar one would for a desktop, so did the RAM, even tho it was old DDR SDRAM
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- the laptop itself is more expensive than a similar desktop
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That is changing.
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- laptops always lag behind in performance compared to desktops
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Proof?
But anything smaller then laptops (netbooks, smartphones) IMHO are useless, weak and easy to lose 
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06-17-2010, 03:37 PM
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Proof ? Go get it. I can build a more powerful desktop than you can build a laptop, at any time, this is a fact. Prove it by giving me the specs of the best laptop on the planet for sale to the public, and I'll show you how to build a desktop that is more powerful (not using server board, cuz that would be cheating).
A laptop will never be cheaper than a similar desktop, you give me proof to the contrary.
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06-17-2010, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by smeezekitty
RAM, HDD, sometimes video chip are all easily acceptable.
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??? You can replace the GPU in a laptop? I thought that was impossible, since it's integrated with the motherboard/mainboard somehow...? 
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06-17-2010, 03:54 PM
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^ Sometimes in a socket.
@H_TeXMeX_H:
Does the price matter? If it doesn't i have something powerful to post.
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06-17-2010, 04:54 PM
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Mobility and portablity are not the same thing.
If drive a autoMOBILE (portable laptop)
If you walk, ride bike, or train (mobile-phone)
If you are at home (laptop seem too heavy to carry comfortably around; netbook or mobilephone)
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06-17-2010, 08:21 PM
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I don't understand the big deal here. A computer is a tool. A means to get a task done. Doesn't matter if the task is games, word processing, servers, whatever. Maybe you don't want to be tied to a desk.
Whatever the task, use the equipment that best fulfills the need.
I have a desktop that doubles as a server. I don't want to be stuck in the computer room because I have kids. So I bought a laptop. When I need to do most things on an actual PC I work on the laptop. Lately though, I've found that I can do most of my dailies on my Droid; I've not used my laptop in about a month.
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06-18-2010, 12:59 AM
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What's the difference?
Go ahead and set the forty plus pounds of a desktop on your nuts and tell me if they are the same.
Let me know if you get confused between a blade server and an iphone.
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06-18-2010, 04:26 AM
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^ Sometimes in a socket.
@H_TeXMeX_H:
Does the price matter? If it doesn't i have something powerful to post.
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Price is not an issue, but it will probably be higher for the laptop.
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