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Old 01-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #16
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Personally, I like to see topics where many alternate ideas are expressed. Everyone learns that way. This is the point of a forum, it is not supposed to be limited.



Why don't you try DVD-ram disks? You can use them for years and years.


I do try to offer alternate solutions. Sometimes the OP (as well as myself) is set in their ways and can't see outside of their box as it were. I have seen many of the issues posted and offer advice based on that experience. I don't recommend 5 inch floppies anymore based on that.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:49 PM   #17
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Why don't you try DVD-ram disks? You can use them for years and years.
I did that, before the rise of the USB stick. They were expensive and very difficult to find. They are also incredibly slow to write. It's also important to reformat: if the UDF filing system gets broken you can't (or you couldn't) repair it in Linux.
 
Old 01-26-2013, 02:12 PM   #18
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I don't recommend 5 inch floppies anymore based on that.
LOL! You'll not even find 'em anymore, let alone be able to use 'em...

Look, it's simple, a USB 2.0 and a decent stick, and you're set. But...it's the never ending "spenderism" some people profess, as if cash grows on trees. Of course, it sometimes does wear out, okay, believe me, I have a 5" drive (somewhere) but I outgrew it...on my own time and pace. Not because 3.5" (then) became the "thing" and later other stuff became the hype. But because I outgrew it...
It's a process, just like the evolution of persistent storage...
 
Old 01-26-2013, 04:43 PM   #19
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90% of my DVD's are DVD+-RW
i keep a small set of dvd -r and dvd +r but most are on dvd rw

the same gos for CD's most i use are cd rw

I to HATE putting 8 to 24 megs on a cd +-r


i do have a old box with a 3.5 in "floppy" but if i give a few floppys to someone they can not use them
 
Old 01-27-2013, 02:24 AM   #20
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Of course, it's not so much the cost of a disk, but more the "where will it end" issue...
Usually when people stop patching things to keep it going just that little bit longer. It's like rust in a car, if you put bog in it to hide it the rust is still there, if you get the rust cut out and clean metal put back in properly your issue is gone.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:08 AM   #21
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If you can't afford it, then say so, or ignore the opinion. No, but you see there are people who hate others' opinions so much that when they see them, they will flame away doggedly on nearly every one of the user's posts until the user gets fed up and leaves.

Don't worry, pretty soon, you won't get any opinions because you've driven them all away. Then you can do what you want in silence, if you know what to do that is. If not, then you just sit in silence.

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:37 AM   #22
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People have a right to express their opinions, even if they are flamed for it. There was a time here long ago, when flame wars were stopped by the mods, and trolls were punished and banned.
there's been flaming here? Not by me...

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Usually when people stop patching things to keep it going just that little bit longer
Yup, at some point, enough is enough...just...where and when is that point?
 
Old 01-27-2013, 08:52 AM   #23
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there's been flaming here? Not by me...
No, but if you check other posts, including recent ones by me in General, you will see who has been trolling. Flaming is more rare, but it does happen.

I can't really blame anyone in particular. I suppose it's just the way the world is now. Everyone is angry and frustrated and they want to take it out on someone. I don't even play online video games anymore because of it. I do not worry, these angry people will get a way to vent it soon enough, and the problem will take care of itself.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 09:43 AM   #24
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I don't even play online video games anymore because of it
Tried Runescape? An MMORPG you can play all on your own, I do, and it's fun. If I dont feel like talking, I dont talk, simple...
No need to hide in the shadow....

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Everyone is angry and frustrated and they want to take it out on someone.
Hmm, that's what I think started this thread: a moment of frustration, a little too much need to reach out...and BAM.
People feel somewhat helpless of late, and who can blame 'em?
I dont, and I know ... neither do you
 
Old 01-27-2013, 10:35 AM   #25
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No, but if you check other posts, including recent ones by me in General, you will see who has been trolling. Flaming is more rare, but it does happen.
Yes, well, that has nothing to do with me--I think I haven't spoken to you recently. But under current economic conditions, I think anyone who assumes an OP can necessarily run out and buy new equipment is out of touch. The opposite should probably be a default assumption. That if I didn't solve the problem with some equipment by throwing it away and replacing it, it was because I probably can't.

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Old 01-27-2013, 11:33 AM   #26
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Yes, well, that has nothing to do with me--I think I haven't spoken to you recently. But under current economic conditions, I think anyone who assumes an OP can necessarily run out and buy new equipment is out of touch. The opposite should probably be a default assumption. That if I didn't solve the problem with some equipment by throwing it away and replacing it, it was because I probably can't.
I think it is more complicated than that. For example you can buy a USB stick, install things with that and save money overall instead of buying disks. Now, personally, I don't trust USB sticks for backing up data, so I would not use them to backup my data (or at least as the sole means). I suppose you could save money by backing up to a USB stick, but if it becomes corrupted ... the price goes up.

You cannot know an optimal solution until it has been proposed, tried and tested, and found to work for you. You can't restrict people from giving your their opinion, because buying new equipment may be the best and most cost efficient thing to do in some/many cases.

Again, let people state their opinion, and if you don't like it, then ignore it, or say that it's not for you and why. Maybe they will change their mind, or maybe you will. Maybe what is lacking overall is sensible conversation or discussion. All I hear are arguments and destructive criticism. Again, part of the general anger and frustration, probably due to the same things you mentioned ... economic problems.

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Tried Runescape? An MMORPG you can play all on your own, I do, and it's fun. If I dont feel like talking, I dont talk, simple...
No need to hide in the shadow....
Yes, I played it for a while, but it gets boring. I might play it again.
 
  


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