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Old 02-28-2016, 09:30 PM   #31
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it is because Trump really is "zaphod beeblebrox" in the
" VOTE FOR STUPID ! " contest
 
Old 02-28-2016, 09:42 PM   #32
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:36 PM   #33
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it is because Trump really is "zaphod beeblebrox"
Zaphod Beeblebrox was a fool, but he had not malice.

Chauncey Devega, an academician, blogger, and podcaster whom I respect mightily, thinks that Trump is playing the crowd, channeling the perfect professional wrestling "heel." I'm not a fan of pro wrestling, at least not since the days of the Ripper and the Swede, but I have attended a show (it was First Son's birthday present a long time ago) and they do know how to work a crowd.

http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2016/0...ut-donald.html
 
Old 02-28-2016, 10:36 PM   #34
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@ sundialsvcs

Believe me, I'm the last person in the world who don't want Trump as President. He's just too eccentric in his political beliefs.

But if he continues to extend his percentage points above the other candidates he will be a very strong contender coming this November. I just have a churning feeling in my gut he might win.

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Old 02-29-2016, 02:34 PM   #35
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It's an interesting possibility. However, I doubt that this is the actual grand strategy.

I think that Mr. Trump would be miserable, and ineffective, in the White House because the POTUS job-description is a mixture of opposites. As military commander-in-chief, the POTUS is "s/he who must be obeyed." But, as a civil CEO of one of the largest organizations in the world, he has only the power of persuasion ... and a board-of-directors of more than 650 members, none of whom have to do anything you say. They'll send you a single bill that's two thousand pages long, which you must either sign in its entirety or reject in its entirety, and they'll hold you hostage by arranging the government to run out of money and shut down if you don't. Not a job that I would want to have.

Basically, I think that this is just an indication that "the Two-Party System, Inc." has, at long last, "run out of steam" as they have also run out of ideas. They grew immensely rich over the past fifty years, but it's Rumpelstiltskin money. They no longer serve or represent the collective interests of over 350 million people, and ("let them eat cake") no longer particularly try to.

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Old 02-29-2016, 04:16 PM   #36
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Even if; I don't see it lasting, even four years?
 
Old 03-03-2016, 04:55 AM   #37
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One thing is very clear to me; the voters in the United States of America are fed up with the " system " that bails out corrupt banks, gets into needless wars, and bleeds the average working stiff to death with taxes and fees, etc.!! The big question in my mind is not what kind of a president Donald Trump would be; the big question is whether " the entrenched system " will get rid of him the same way that it got rid of president Kennedy!!
 
Old 03-03-2016, 06:58 AM   #38
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Well, let us leave that thought right there on the ground where it lays, shall we?

Everyone in political office ... or in high-dollar real estate, for that matter ... knows that they face mortal danger every day. (A young Arizona Congresswoman just tried to do a little "stumping" at a grocery store ... etc.) But, let's not so much as discuss ... murder. Here, there, or anywhere.

You're absolutely right that the present political establishment, and the country, is at a turning point. But nothing good ever comes from violence -- or public discussion of violence -- and nothing ever will. Even a presidential candidate is a representation of a noble idea that "we can actually," peacefully, non-violently, "govern ourselves." He or she is pursuing the most difficult job on Planet Earth, and it is a symbol of the nation itself.

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Old 03-03-2016, 10:23 AM   #39
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Balderdash. Is it murder if both parties are armed? Yes but!
 
Old 03-03-2016, 10:51 AM   #40
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It is murder to assassinate anyone, and it is certainly not in good form even to discuss it.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 11:15 AM   #41
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it is very simple. just the same way Obama got in, via talk and ability to appease at the right time.

put the pieces together and you end up with populous who are done with party leadership who are failing us in all directions, now comes along a savvy outsider who can talk about how bad the others have done, and now its time for change.

i was not able to make this video yet, but with my new gopro i am getting ready to capture some video and do some editing, but here's the script (in context of all candidates):

fade from black to horse pooping in the pen
fade to black
fade from black of two people cowboy boots from about chest height (1st person view), one man one boy
boy says "well dad, who will we vote for?"
dad says "you know son, we have Republicans and Democrats to pick from, here, let me show you"
man and boy take a slow stroll out to the pile of horse poop, camera filming down at their cowboy boot steps
they arrive at the pile of poop
dad says, while sifting the pile of poop with his boot toe, "you know son, here's what you got to pick from, choose the best looking piece you can".
dad continues to sift the poop around
fade to black

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Old 03-03-2016, 11:29 AM   #42
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:23 PM   #43
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Good folks can't run for office. Corporate News will tear them to shreds.

Now. Define Good Folks. Kinda like asking "what linux should I install" or "which flavor of icecream tastes best".

The answer varies like the religion or windows mega thread.

Pile of turds? No wonder. You get what you wish for. Now deal with it.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 07:01 PM   #44
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Arrow "Presidents" (or voters of people :rolleyes: for that matter) aren't equal &c...

(Unless it's for my softball team:) I have a problem voting for bodies, one way or another.
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Makes sense but somethings are straight forward, >> the religions even chiseled some down for us. [easy]Food and education[/easy] but multiplied by seven billion heads, F1!
 
Old 03-03-2016, 07:17 PM   #45
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Primate behavior

My young (early 20s) son made several observations today that caught my attention. None involved politics at the time. One was that there are people who cannot really debate. They have no clear ideas, just bullet points, and they argue as if the loudest person in the room wins.

That suddenly made the Trump campaign, and followers, make sense to me: they are from that population. He does not have to make sense, be intelligent, know ANYTHING as long as he makes points loudly and puts on a good show.

Have we (the U.S.A.), as a country, fallen so far that the loudest monkey leads the troop?
 
  


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