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Old 12-07-2010, 04:46 AM   #421
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and I did see that definition of "ether" before but I couldn't understand how it relates to that sentence.
Well, it means your spirit (or intent, I suppose) is travelling through the air to the person you're conversing with. It's difficult to be more precise without that phrase's context.
 
Old 12-07-2010, 04:51 AM   #422
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Well, it means your spirit (or intent, I suppose) is travelling through the air to the person you're conversing with.
Thanks, that was helpful.
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It's difficult to be more precise without that phrase's context.
Well, I was helping someone far away for quite a long time for which I think he wrote that

Why can't these English men give some simpler complements ???
 
Old 12-07-2010, 05:31 AM   #423
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Ether as in Ethernet (coming from the second meaning, second sub-meaning of the linked definition).
 
Old 12-07-2010, 05:37 AM   #424
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Did you notice that oxforddictionaries.com split English into "US English" and "World English"? The word hubris comes to mind but thefreedictionary.com's definition is more accurate than oxforddictionaries.com's!
 
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Ether as in Ethernet (coming from the second meaning, second sub-meaning of the linked definition).
Uh..Okay..ummm .. perhaps
 
Old 12-07-2010, 06:51 AM   #426
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Uh..Okay..ummm .. perhaps
You sound doubtful, Anisha. What's wrong?

From the Oxford: "(the ether) informal air regarded as a medium for radio".

From Ethernet: The Definitive Guide (O'Reilly and Associates, 2000) (excerpted here, my bolding): "Metcalfe's first experimental network was called the Alto Aloha Network. In 1973 Metcalfe changed the name to "Ethernet," to make it clear that the system could support any computer--not just Altos--and to point out that his new network mechanisms had evolved well beyond the Aloha system. He chose to base the name on the word "ether" as a way of describing an essential feature of the system: the physical medium (i.e., a cable) carries bits to all stations, much the same way that the old "luminiferous ether" was once thought to propagate electromagnetic waves through space. Thus, Ethernet was born.
 
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Thanks again,

Your bolded (is bolded a word ?) text made the things clear. But the Australian could have written it in a simpler way.

Are you an NRI or an English man living in India ?
 
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Thanks again,

Your bolded (is bolded a word ?) text made the things clear. But the Australian could have written it in a simpler way.

Are you an NRI or an English man living in India ?
Simply "bold" would be the right word there.
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Sorry Anisha, I didn't see your post until just now. I was born in UK, spent most of my life there and have been living in India for ~6 years.
Ah, yes -- that would allow NRI. As far as history relates my forebears were English; I don't think of myself that way.

BTW there should not be a space before "?"; it is used the same way as ".", ",", "!", ";" and ":" -- immediately following the last letter of the previous word.
 
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Well, even the highly qualified professors in India won't have the level of English you have, it is quite evident from your English writing standard that you are "old" and not from India!
 
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They said that I have a weird taste
When should that be used?

Will it be wrong if I write:
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They said I have a weird taste
?
 
Old 12-08-2010, 12:55 AM   #431
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Well, even the highly qualified professors in India won't have the level of English you have, it is quite evident from your English writing standard that you are "old" and not from India!
Some Indians have superb English, far better than even well educated English people. Sri Aurobindo was one; his deep understanding of not only English culture but its antecedent Roman and Greek cultures and languages gave him a huge knowledge of meaning and nuance. Some academic papers by Indians are similarly excellent examples of clarity, precision and conciseness.

Excellence in language is dependent on clarity of thought and an interest in the language. Hence is not so much my age (although I do confess to being older than 13 and will take "old" as the compliment it can be in India) as my interest in the language which has lead to what I know. The FreeDictionary is at the top of my Firefox bookmarks and consulted whenever I am not clear about the exact meaning of a word or am looking for a word with a slightly different meaning. While reading about words I also look at their etymology and evolution because knowing where they came from and how a living language has modified them gives insight and somehow makes it all easier to remember.

EDIT: having just seen an interview with Amartya Sen, he's another example of an Indian with superb English.

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When should that be used?

Will it be wrong if I write:
?
"That" has so many possible uses. Here the usage is pronoun, 1, b on the linked page. It is not wrong but not necessary and, insofar as it adds a word without adding any useful meaning, it is undesirable.
 
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It seems you have studied literature in detail, ever thought of joining JNU as an English Professor

I have bookmarked the freedictionary too now! and that that link was helpful.
I don't want to look fool/dumb when talking to English people here, so I am keen on improving myself.

and the question should have been: When to avoid using that?
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(although I do confess to being older than 13 and will take "old" as the compliment it can be in India)
That's my fault that I called you "old", you may be a girl and calling a girl "old" is not a compliment! Though Charles doesn't seem like a girl's name but the way you are dodging the age query it seems ... Okay I won't bug you anymore on this now.

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I don't want to look fool/dumb when talking to English people here, so I am keen on improving myself.

and the question should have been: When to avoid using that?
You have English people there? How is their written and spoken English? With your interest in the language you will soon be finding mistakes, if you are not already.

Method: say it to yourself with and without the "that"; if the meaning is clear without then it is not necessary.

EDIT: by the calendar I am 56. How did that happen?!

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You have English people there?
No! no no, I was talking about LQ , not Gurgaon
 
  


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