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Old 12-01-2010, 02:42 AM   #391
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but what does "its associated" add to the expression?
I think its my habit to write redundant words to make the statement more clear.
When I wrote "its associated", I wanted it to be clear that I am referring to the permissions of the file in question "only".
 
Old 12-01-2010, 02:45 AM   #392
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When I wrote "its associated", I wanted it to be clear that I am referring to the permissions of the file in question "only".
You could leave the word "associated" off, leaving "Check (or confirm) the file's existence and its permissions". That's how I'd say it.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 03:14 AM   #393
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This is intended to be constructive and I would not mention it if it were it not for your interest in perfecting these things Anisha ...
I wondered why were you so apprehensive here, then I remembered "broken" and your PM
 
Old 12-01-2010, 04:12 AM   #394
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I wondered why were you so apprehensive here, then I remembered "broken" and your PM
Offence is more easily taken online where we don't have all the communications channels of face-to-face interaction for reassurance. Many people take criticism as a personal attack rather than helpful. In the above case I was fairly confident you would welcome the comment but I was being cautious.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:25 PM   #395
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when to use:
Code:
you was
?

Most of the time I use :
Code:
you were
Well, I even didn't know that "you was" existed, e.g. in the movie Runaway Train.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 06:00 PM   #396
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Although "You was" can sometimes be heard in casual conversations, it's definitely incorrect.


The opposite is possible. When expressing so-called 'unreal past' you can use "I/he/she/it were" (which otherwise is incorrect).

Quote:
If I were you, I'd see the doctor
If it were true, I would have to leave the country.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 11:30 PM   #397
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Although "You was" can sometimes be heard in casual conversations, it's definitely incorrect.


The opposite is possible. When expressing so-called 'unreal past' you can use "I/he/she/it were" (which otherwise is incorrect).
but why sometimes in movies, they employ it, this "you was" ... not once. I am curious why it is employed as such to create some effects
 
Old 12-03-2010, 12:09 AM   #398
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but why sometimes in movies, they employ it, this "you was" ... not once. I am curious why it is employed as such to create some effects
It is vernacular in the sense of "everyday language specific to a social group or region" so is intended to inform the viewer that the speaker is lower class and ill-educated, probably from south-east England.

But it is not quite so simple; in UK during the 1970s and 80s there was a movement, based in music and poetry, to embrace non-U accents and they became trendy so it was no longer safe to assume that a "you was" user is lower class and ill-educated; this declined in the 1990s.
 
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the speaker is lower class and ill-educated, probably from south-east England.
What is wrong with me?! I refrained from mentioning it for fear of offending someone who might be using it.

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But it is not quite so simple; in UK during the 1970s and 80s there was a movement, based in music and poetry, to embrace non-U accents and they became trendy so it was no longer safe to assume that a "you was" user is lower class and ill-educated; this declined in the 1990s.
That's interesting. I didn't know about it.
 
Old 12-03-2010, 04:44 AM   #400
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What is wrong with me?! I refrained from mentioning it for fear of offending someone who might be using it.
You was being cautious
 
Old 12-03-2010, 04:45 AM   #401
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You was being cautious
innit!
 
Old 12-04-2010, 09:10 AM   #402
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Shall we say either:

Code:
I copy my picture folder
or

Code:
I copy my pictures folder
 
Old 12-04-2010, 09:11 AM   #403
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I copy my pictures DIRECTORY
 
Old 12-04-2010, 09:17 AM   #404
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I copy my pictures DIRECTORY
but normally the word "picture" is not an adjective or sthg like that?
then:
Code:
I will carry my bottles pack
is correct, rather than:
Code:
I will carry my bottle pack

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It is vernacular in the sense of "everyday language specific to a social group or region" so is intended to inform the viewer that the speaker is lower class and ill-educated, probably from south-east England.
Very interesting things you wrote. Very nice. thanks

Small "ill-educated", you meant ... "probably from south-east England." ... well... kidding, but well in the movie actually the guy is an inmate. He escaped, bit sad movie, -well it is sad to see that people who are not well educated, young mostly, are later suffering of low abilities or bad judgements from others, or are excluded, get badly paid, poor life's style... and it is a loop
 
Old 12-04-2010, 10:16 AM   #405
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Which one of these would be the best?:

Code:
I messed up my linux installation
or:

Code:
I messed my linux installation up
?

I think I've seen it both ways, but I'm not sure which one is the most appropriate. I guess the first one corresponds to how people really talks in a daily basis, and the second is the most correct -but less used- one? Or maybe both ways are correct, but the second one is more formal than the first one?

BTW, nice thread; I know have some other doubts with english, but I can't remember them now, when I remember them, I'll post again (feel free to correct me if I make mistakes in this thread ).

Greetings, and thanks in advance.

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