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Old 10-20-2010, 08:01 PM   #301
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Can we please not have that whole thing leak out into this thread?
Okay I'll ask another question:

Have you mis-placed your sense of humor somewhere ?
 
Old 10-20-2010, 11:08 PM   #302
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smeeze,

Thank you for the compliments. I was also under the same illusion till now that ... (Oh !! I have just realized what effect till now must have had on THAT sentence )

Okay, you see I used till now in THAT sentence pointing to the last conversation we (I and X) had. I had used it in a positive sense but I was shocked when X asked me that why it was no longer a nice experience !!!

and then I asked the question here and got myself sorted out.

Another example:
We in India use Kindly instead of Please usually in official matters. (and Kindly is considered very polite there) I asked the OP (native English speaker of a western country) of some thread to "Kindly spell your words out, SMS language is against the forum rules" to which OP replied that I was being bossy since I had used "Kindly" instead of "Please" ! Huh ????

The western country people try to derive some meanings out of my sentences rather than reading them literally !


Brian,
I read OK as "It is not worst, but it could be better, currently it is so-so". It that what you meant in your last post ?

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Old 10-21-2010, 04:24 AM   #303
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Brian,
I read OK as "It is not worst, but it could be better, currently it is so-so". It that what you meant in your last post ?
No, I agreed with smeeze, your English is very good.
About using "Kindly". In spoken English, this can be interpreted as being sarcastic. For example, if you think somebody's talking too much: "Would you kindly shut up!" Maybe that person got that wrong impression from your reply.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 04:56 AM   #304
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About using "Kindly". In spoken English, this can be interpreted as being sarcastic.
Yes, he gave me an English lesson after-wards

Can anything else be used instead of Please having the same effect ?
 
Old 10-21-2010, 05:11 AM   #305
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Yes, he gave me an English lesson after-wards
No hyphen in "afterwards", please.
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Can anything else be used instead of Please having the same effect ?
No. I think "Please" should be sufficient.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 05:16 AM   #306
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No hyphen in "afterwards", please.
I know, but the firefox spell checker showed a RED line beneath the word, then I thought spell-checker knows more English than me !

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No. I think "Please" should be sufficient.
I say please when I am desperate to get help, not otherwise, that's why I asked for replacement.

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Old 10-21-2010, 05:28 AM   #307
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Yeah, I got that red underline too on afterwards. But the spellchecker is definitely wrong.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/afterwards
This is for when you're desperate:
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!?!?!

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Old 10-21-2010, 07:05 AM   #308
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We in India use Kindly instead of Please usually in official matters. (and Kindly is considered very polite there) I asked the OP (native English speaker of a western country) of some thread to "Kindly spell your words out, SMS language is against the forum rules" to which OP replied that I was being bossy since I had used "Kindly" instead of "Please" ! Huh ????
I didn't know that. I always thought you were afraid that the person you were talking to would get offensive and that's why you kept saying "kindly".

For example, when I read "Kindly spell your words out", I interpreted it as "spell your words out without getting angry at me for making rules for you" instead of "please spell out your words".
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:15 AM   #309
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As well as being a bit sarcastic, using "Kindly" can be condescending, as if you're talking down to whoever you're addressing.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:21 AM   #310
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I used to watch lots of English films to get my spoken english right

But I am good at Bengali and Hindi
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:22 AM   #311
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You seemed to have learnt a lot of Bengali and hindi from those english movies.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:27 AM   #312
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You seemed to have learnt a lot of Bengali and hindi from those english movies.
Naah!! they din't help in Hindi and Bengali
But they surely helped in English xD
 
Old 10-21-2010, 07:32 AM   #313
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I didn't know that. I always thought you were afraid that the person you were talking to would get offensive and that's why you kept saying "kindly".
and I really didn't know that people do notice my posting habits here I remember using Please in my "BOOTMGR missing" thread since I was on the verge of crying at that time!

I usually write "Kindly help" in my threads.
Check this out:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-373117.html

I think the Britishers are responsible for this "Kindly" mess
 
Old 10-21-2010, 08:02 AM   #314
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"Kindly" in British speak amounts to "Kisama" in Japanese speech... well sort of... :

In the old days, Kisdama used to be a very respectful way of addressing to somenone... till 1860, aproximately... the end of Edo period, and beginning of Meiji Restoration...

nowadays, Kisama is considered the ultimate insult... if you say this to a Japanese and you are not with yout "tongue in cheek", or otherwise joking with somenoe you are very familiar with... be ready for a fight... it is very derogatory....

Yet in terms of precise meaning it is a very formal way of addressing to somenone... usually reserved to generals, Kings, the Emperor... it just becomes derogatory because of the striking abuse of context...

sort of talking to somenone of your own rank and addressing that person like " Excuse me, "Your Highness""...

You are implying that thhe persoon you adress to is "full of shit"... an arrogant and ridiculous bastard...
 
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I think the Britishers are responsible for this "Kindly" mess
Yeah, it's our language so we can mess it up if we want.
 
  


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