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jay73 05-06-2011 01:49 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to read Indian authors who wrote/write in English ? I am thinking of people like R.K. Narayan, V.S. Naipaul, Jhumpa Lahiri, Rohinton Mistry, Vikram Chandra, G.V. Desani, Kiran Desai, Aravind Adiga, Arundhati Roy, Amit Chaudhuri and Vikram Seth. Or Salman Rushdie ("Midnight's Children" in particular).

XavierP 05-06-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4348573)
Not to mention "Emma and The Creature From The Bottomless Pit".

Not seen that one, I'll stick on the "to buy" list. Incidentally, if you like Wodehouse and enjoy a decent parody/homage, What Ho! Automaton is a spanking good read. Though I should really put this in the "what are you reading" thread :)

brianL 05-07-2011 05:19 AM

No, never been too keen on Wodehouse. Or Jane Austen, but my sister is. As far as 19th Century literature is concerned, a few years ago I suddenly developed Dickensmania, reading almost all his novels one after another. OK except for the occasional OTT sentimentality.

Aquarius_Girl 06-17-2011 01:28 AM

Code:

To make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
What does that mean? What is a "sows ear"?

XavierP 06-17-2011 01:46 AM

A sow is a pig. See: http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...#39;s+ear.html

One may also say "you can't polish a turd" :)

Aquarius_Girl 06-17-2011 01:49 AM

Thanks for the explanation, though it wasn't pleasant :D

brianL 06-17-2011 06:05 AM

There's also a related expression, rendered here in a sort-of Lancashire accent:
"Eeee, lad (or lass), tha's med a reet pig's ear o' yon!"
Translation:
"I say, sir (or madam), you appear to have made an awful mess of that!"

XavierP 06-17-2011 07:33 AM

No problem Ani :D

And good to see Brian spreading good old northern dialect to the masses!

brianL 06-17-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by XavierP (Post 4388504)
And good to see Brian spreading good old northern dialect to the masses!

When I'm king, it will be compulsory. No more posh talk, no more "estuary" accent, or whatever. Anybody caught pronouncing their aitches will be flogged through the streets.

SL00b 06-17-2011 07:56 AM

More specifically, a sow is an adult female pig.

cascade9 06-17-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by XavierP (Post 4388504)
And good to see Brian spreading good old northern dialect to the masses!

Next up, he will be bringing Ecky Thump to the world.

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Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4388519)
When I'm king, it will be compulsory. No more posh talk, no more "estuary" accent, or whatever. Anybody caught pronouncing their aitches will be flogged through the streets.

Aaprt from teh french, of course. They will get a free beer when heard pronouncing 'h'.

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Originally Posted by SL00b (Post 4388520)
More specifically, a sow is an adult female pig.

More more specifically, an adult female pig who has been mated, or farrowed once or twice (depending local usage). Or else its a gilt. I think that some places have another name for a female pig who has farrowed 'X' number of times, but I forget exactly what it is. Dam maybe?

SL00b 06-17-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4388548)
More more specifically, an adult female pig who has been mated, or farrowed once or twice (depending local usage). Or else its a gilt. I think that some places have another name for a female pig who has farrowed 'X' number of times, but I forget exactly what it is. Dam maybe?

I see my anal retention has been exceeded. Well done. ;)

This conversation got me to thinking about how many porcine idioms we have... "in a pig's eye," "when pigs fly," "pigging out," "porking," "makin' bacon," etc. What does this apparent pig fetish say about our culture?

For the non-native speakers among us, these idioms loosely translate to:

"in a pig's eye" - never
"when pigs fly" - also never
"pigging out" - grossly overeating... not to be confused with "eat like a pig," which can mean overeating, or making a giant mess while eating, or both.
"porking" and "makin' bacon" - having sex

Aquarius_Girl 06-17-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XavierP (Post 4388504)
No problem Ani :D

I like my friends calling me Ani, really.
and this reminds me that I am yet to reply to your last mail, which I am going to do now.

brianL 06-17-2011 09:02 AM

Another one:
pig ignorant = stupid, with bad manners

sycamorex 06-17-2011 01:27 PM

Putting it all together - would the following sentence be correct?
Quote:

In a pig's eye will I be so pig ignorant to pig out while porking.


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