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Old 03-03-2011, 01:20 PM   #1876
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But seriously, I never ever log in as root, ever. su and maybe the occasional sudo are all I need in life
Do you you mean you never log in as root in a gui?
Because if you are using su you must be changing to something,here's a section from the man page:

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SU(1) User Commands SU(1)

NAME
su - change user ID or become superuser

SYNOPSIS
su [options] [username]

DESCRIPTION
The su command is used to become another user during a login session. Invoked without a
username, su defaults to becoming the superuser. The optional argument - may be used to
provide an environment similar to what the user would expect had the user logged in directly.
As regards to sudo I don't have a problem with it,I'm just not in favour of the *buntu implementation.
I use it to shutdown and reboot my machine from the Fluxbox main menu.And that's it.
Su for everything else.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 01:34 PM   #1877
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isn't there an issue with the Qt4 Trolltech libraries...?
No, they're LGPL now.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 03:57 PM   #1878
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Honestly, I used KDE for maybe a whole whopping 4 or 5 minutes, and I couldn't stand it. I'm so used to gnome.... I know that if I had to, I could get used to it, but I definitely choose not to. And alexvader, thanks for that tid bit of information.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 04:11 PM   #1879
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Do you you mean you never log in as root in a gui?
That's what I meant. I use sudo su most of the time, I don't have to enter a password every time I want to become root and I'm the only one who uses the machine.

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It seems like not many people like gnome nowadays.... Why is that?
I used to be a big GNOME fan, but trying other DE's and window managers really turned me off to it. The deal-breaker for me is the lack of customizability. XFCE, LXDE, and KDE are all much more flexible (although in KDE you have to wade through piles of irrational menus and cry a little). In GNOME you can change your desktop background and GTK theme and that about covers it.
 
Old 03-03-2011, 04:35 PM   #1880
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That's what I meant. I use sudo su most of the time, I don't have to enter a password every time I want to become root and I'm the only one who uses the machine.


I used to be a big GNOME fan, but trying other DE's and window managers really turned me off to it. The deal-breaker for me is the lack of customizability. XFCE, LXDE, and KDE are all much more flexible (although in KDE you have to wade through piles of irrational menus and cry a little). In GNOME you can change your desktop background and GTK theme and that about covers it.
I'm always customizing everything in gnome. I like to experiment, and gnome has given me no problems. I guess I go more in depth than what I should then, huh?
 
Old 03-03-2011, 09:23 PM   #1881
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i used to use gnome, back when debian 5.0 came out. i stuck with that for about 6 months, then i switched to slackware. i was initially turned off by kde, but it grew on me. when my hard drive crashed, i lost everything, and didnt feel like putting in all the work to get kde working exactly the way i wanted it to again, so now im a very happy openbox user, and dont think ill be switching any time soon.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 08:51 AM   #1882
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i used to use gnome, back when debian 5.0 came out. i stuck with that for about 6 months, then i switched to slackware. i was initially turned off by kde, but it grew on me. when my hard drive crashed, i lost everything, and didnt feel like putting in all the work to get kde working exactly the way i wanted it to again, so now im a very happy openbox user, and dont think ill be switching any time soon.
Hey man, can I get your personal view on openbox?
 
Old 03-04-2011, 10:57 AM   #1883
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My newly created old desktop. Just brought it to life after being in trash for long. SOoooo slooooowwwww but it runs Ubuntu and does my work..
Just out of curiosity, how old is that image now?
 
Old 03-04-2011, 11:49 AM   #1884
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Hey man, can I get your personal view on openbox?
I think its absolutely wonderful. I have a fast computer, fast enough that i can run any of the other desktops without losing any perormance, but i still use openbox. I love the right click menus, i find that they are the most efficient and logical way of launching applications ( as opposed to docks, start menus, desktop icons, etc.) the customization in openbox is unlike the customization in gnome/kde because you can customize so much more with the rc files. I currently use no buttons on my window borders, and control my windows entirely with the keyboard, like a tiling wm. Plus, its great to look at my conky and see 3%cpu ane only 120mb ram being used, because the rest of my machine can then be devoted to the task at hand, instead of being used powering things like akonadi, which i dont use anyway.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 01:16 PM   #1885
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I think its absolutely wonderful. I have a fast computer, fast enough that i can run any of the other desktops without losing any perormance, but i still use openbox. I love the right click menus, i find that they are the most efficient and logical way of launching applications ( as opposed to docks, start menus, desktop icons, etc.) the customization in openbox is unlike the customization in gnome/kde because you can customize so much more with the rc files. I currently use no buttons on my window borders, and control my windows entirely with the keyboard, like a tiling wm. Plus, its great to look at my conky and see 3%cpu ane only 120mb ram being used, because the rest of my machine can then be devoted to the task at hand, instead of being used powering things like akonadi, which i dont use anyway.
Oh ok cool. Yea as far as the customization part, I'm used to fully customizing gnome. I don't use any icons like you said though, but I use the menus if needbe. I launch most of my programs from the command line anyway. Thanks for that, looks like I have something new to check out
 
Old 03-04-2011, 09:30 PM   #1886
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I launch most of my programs from the command line anyway
When you say "launch from the command line", do you mean from an actual X terminal, or from the "Run" dialog you get in most DEs when you hit Alt+F2?

I personally use the latter method, because to me, having a terminal sitting there useless is just annoying. Now, I know you can detach the process from the terminal using "&", but it's still dependent on the terminal being open. If you kill the X terminal, you kill the other program (since it's a child of the terminal process).
 
Old 03-05-2011, 07:38 AM   #1887
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I personally use the latter method, because to me, having a terminal sitting there useless is just annoying. Now, I know you can detach the process from the terminal using "&", but it's still dependent on the terminal being open. If you kill the X terminal, you kill the other program (since it's a child of the terminal process).
You can use nohup or disown.

I still prefer a run dialog, so I set an Openbox keyboard shortcut to open a script that uses Zenity to ask for the command and runs it.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 11:16 AM   #1888
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You can use nohup or disown.

I still prefer a run dialog, so I set an Openbox keyboard shortcut to open a script that uses Zenity to ask for the command and runs it.
actually, i just use krunner at alt + f2. another good choice would be fbrun. both seem to run in openbox with no issue.
 
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When you say "launch from the command line", do you mean from an actual X terminal, or from the "Run" dialog you get in most DEs when you hit Alt+F2?

I personally use the latter method, because to me, having a terminal sitting there useless is just annoying. Now, I know you can detach the process from the terminal using "&", but it's still dependent on the terminal being open. If you kill the X terminal, you kill the other program (since it's a child of the terminal process).
From a terminal. I use disown or nohup like MTK358 stated. I just love working from terminals and all text. It gives me a ..... Well, I won't go there. I just prefer it that way
 
Old 03-05-2011, 01:28 PM   #1890
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I use grun. It's labelled as "Run..." in my openbox menu. I could probably assign a keyboard shortcut, but it's only two clicks away as it is.
 
  


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