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View Poll Results: Do you browse through Tor?
No. 29 76.32%
At home only. 6 15.79%
At work only. 1 2.63%
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #1
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Poll: Do you browse through Tor?


If you don't know what Tor is, answer no.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 05:26 PM   #2
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No. Because it just draws attention to yourself as having something to hide. Second, NSA has figured a way to track tor users. I believe there is an article here on LQ about that.

Anonymity is not an option in today's online world.

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Old 09-24-2013, 06:28 PM   #3
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No. Because it just draws attention to yourself as having something to hide. Second, NSA has figured a way to track tor users. I believe there is an article here on LQ about that.

Anonymity is not an option in today's online world.
So, it would be bad for the government to know you were trying to keep your data private from them? And that would be so terrible that it would be even worse then them actually having access to the data?
 
Old 09-24-2013, 07:38 PM   #4
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Second, NSA has figured a way to track tor users.
the javascript hole used BY the NSA on ".onion" ( only the FS servers )
used a hole that WAS already FIXED !!!
Firefox 17.07 had the hole
at the time of the javascript exploit firefox 17.08 WAS the current
and that hole WAS FIXED in FF 17.08
and it ran a MICROSOFT .exe file to ping a nsa ran server

so
you were only vulnerable to it using a OLD UNPATCHED !!!! version of the tor bundle and if you were using Microsoft WINDOWS


now as to normal tracking
??? yes and no ????
with enough entry and exit nodes under the nsa control it is " ? possible ? " to statistically correlate users times and ip's running through the nodes and start to make good guesses as to who is who

but that will require a LOT of computing power
and that is within a "state ran" body's resources

but will they do it for EVERYTHING ?????
-- not likely
 
Old 09-24-2013, 07:55 PM   #5
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No, why? because I don't feel the need (I don't have anything to hide from my government) and there was an article a few weeks ago showing a sharp increase in tor usage and it has been blamed on a botnet.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 03:55 AM   #6
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No, I think it is just a honeypot like others have said, for the three letter agencies.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 05:12 AM   #7
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No, because I'm not a terrorist or pedophile. <---sarcasm?
 
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So, it would be bad for the government to know you were trying to keep your data private from them? And that would be so terrible that it would be even worse then them actually having access to the data?
I value my privacy as much as you as well as others. I agree it's not the government's business knowing what we do or communicate online, but they don't care for our privacy. They want to protect us against terrorists as they say. The government may be living like cowards and with extreme paranoia, but not me, I live my day not even thinking about it.

@ John VV

Don't know much about tor. I was just reiterating an article I saw here about NSA and tor.
 
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So, it would be bad for the government to know you were trying to keep your data private from them? And that would be so terrible that it would be even worse then them actually having access to the data?
I'd say it's more like Tor is just a place they created to attract people and then catch them. It would be much harder if they didn't provide such a place.

Technically usenet is also a great place to catch people doing illegal things.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 08:38 AM   #10
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Only rarely, as it is slow, and the anonymity is doubtful though probably better than nothing.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 10:39 AM   #11
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Nunya/Nacho
 
Old 09-25-2013, 06:34 PM   #12
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my vote is nay.
 
Old 09-26-2013, 05:16 AM   #13
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No, because i love be intercepted
 
Old 09-26-2013, 06:10 PM   #14
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No. Tried it 5+ years ago and it ran very slow, 30-45 seconds to load a page (like this one) slow. And even if it's faster now, then there is the matter of if you trust it. I don't. In a perfect world you should be able to use it and have no worries, But in a perfect world you shouldn't need it either. I'd bet no such agency runs more of them than any one else as well. The last I read about them said the total number of servers was still too small to provide anything close to true anonymity. Probably will always be that way.

On a side note, I think most of this is just a way to try and circumvent the natural curiosity of others trying to find out what the other person is doing.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 02:16 PM   #15
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NO! WTF would I???

The government already think we are terrorists...

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