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Old 11-20-2005, 11:53 PM   #1
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OT: Windows Vista


This is software so I figured I'd post here. I just found out that Microsoft's Windows Vista is calling for at least 512 MB of RAM. What in the world! Where is there going to be room for applications? In case you're interested this is where I found it. It makes me smile when I think of the fact that my Linux desktop was free cept' for hardware and runs smooth as silk on 256 of RAM and an 850 Mhz processor.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:01 AM   #2
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You are forgetting that Vista (or what else they are going to call it) will (or it is supposed to) include a 3D desktop and many applets, basically more resource consuming eye-candy. But Linux won't stay behind, some might think KDE will turn 3D too , it's a high resource consuming desktop anyway
BTW I prefer and use Fluxbox ( a lightweight window manger )
Windows will still remain a buggy OS, and give out-of memory errors .
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:10 AM   #3
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Windows will still remain a buggy OS, and give out-of memory errors
Your insight is astounding and we all appreciate it immensely... not! Have you ever used the new version of Windows? Have you seen any of it's codebase? Do you know any of the developers or design spec of the new OS? Unfounded rubbish is annoying, I saw you answer a question before, I had high hopes for someone intelligent
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:20 AM   #4
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Unfounded rubbish is annoying, I saw you answer a question before, I had high hopes for someone intelligent
... would you have been happier if Worksman had qualified that he "expects windows to remain buggy and prone to out of memory errors"?

Is there reason to expect anything else?

I've never eaten arsinic, but I expect it to lead to an unpleasant experience. So much so that I would be quite prepared to state categorically that "eating arsinic will lead to unpleasant experiences". Nuff said.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:21 AM   #5
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Red face

Oh come on! Can't you understand a devoted linux users hatred agains proprietary OS's?
And basecode? What basecode? You see that at Mic**soft?
If MS would release the source code, believe me that would make Window the base desktop and server OS on the planet! But it looks like that's just not their plan! Their plan is to make MONEY!
Don't be hating! ok?
Oh, and don't expect *very* intelligent answers from me regarding windoze!
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:28 AM   #6
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KDE

I use KDE b/c it's just so handy and pretty. I have no problems with Mandriva 2005 LE and this version of KDE, so I don't plan on updating to 2006 or new versions of KDE any time soon unless I see something in them I need. Especially if KDE goes 3-d I will keep this one just because I like to use my system resources for running my applications, not my operating system. I just installed fluxbox though and it's like two packages and takes all of about 2 seconds to start up, but I don't like the fact that it doesn't have desktop shortcuts or anything. I'll play with it some more later though, looks pretty handy for computers like mine. (See signature for specs) And yes it's sad but true, nobody has seen the codebase for Windows except for developers because they are painfully "closed" source. I do like XP though, it's on my laptop (primarily cause' all of the hardware including USB ports was built proprietary for Windows) and it's not a really bad OS, lots of nifty tools. There is a similar topic on another forum I post on if you're interested you can click here

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Old 11-21-2005, 01:30 AM   #7
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Windows-bashing is one of my pet hates. Don't feel like I've singled you out, I've been over this many times before and it's frustrating. I use linux because I like the level of control it offers and the fact that I can contribute to projects where I see fit. Before using linux I used Windows for years and never had a problem with the OS that wasn't directly my fault (WinME aside). I used to be a mod at a large web development forum and I know a large number of Windows users who have yet to experience spyware, because they maintain their computers effectively.

If you were to take a computer, install linux, log it in as root and load KDE and associated garbage and leave it without a firewall and unprotected then it would get rooted before long as well. My point is don't knock the OS when 95% of problems are the users fault. If you've had a genuine problem with Windows and use that example to back up your post then I'll leave you alone but until then you can expect me to be on your back asking for a valid reason for your comments.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:32 AM   #8
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Poor Windows ME, everybody hates it, lol.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:33 AM   #9
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Oh and I edited my long post earlier so you might wanna check it out again, a reply was posted before I finished editing it though.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:51 AM   #10
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cs-cam I will like to say only this since I don't want to start a forum fight or something: I disagree with you regarding windows. The best Windows as I see it is still 2K. About Spyware: yah I had no problems with it *infecting* my computer, because I ran a bunch of antispyware programs that took too much memory and CPU resources. Viruses are something else, I have only bad memories with windows regarding this. Why? A goog antivirus program and easy on the RAM and resoures is not out there to find. If it's my mistake and one magically got built, then it probably costs a fortune. That 95% seems too big, I would say 75% average. If you are still going to argue then I will not reply, as I've seen before this kind of subject destroy relationships and I don't care wheter you use Windows or Linux as long as we get along good and can help eachother answering on linuxquestions . Hell, I would not care or argue (or hate you ) even if you say Linux is sh*t!
 
Old 11-21-2005, 01:58 AM   #11
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I use AVG Free Edition, it's a free antivirus available on download.com with regular updates, auto scans, and is fairly easy on your system. I ran it on an old 95 machine with 32 MB of RAM and a 133 Mhz processor with no problem, and it catches viruses better than some of the commercial ones I've seen. Just wanted to let you know in case you still had a Windows machine sitting around in need of an anti-virus.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 02:04 AM   #12
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OK Thank you very much, I still have WXP on my laptop since that's what my bro uses! And I run Nor*on !!! Slow as hell. I'm thinking of doing some dualbooting! As for spyware, anything good? I'm just lookin for something to losen up that system (3.02GHz 512MB DDR333 80 GB 4200RPM )
 
Old 11-21-2005, 02:14 AM   #13
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I used to suggest Spyware Doctor but they no longer offer a free version of that. You could look though and see I could be wrong. On my Windows laptop though I use Microsoft Anti-spyware and Ad-aware SE Personal. Microsoft Ant-spyware requires you to verify that you have a legal copy of Windows though so that's kind of a downer. Just search for spyware on download.com and read some of the reviews there's probably all kinds of stuff.

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Old 11-21-2005, 02:45 AM   #14
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I have no intention of starting a fight but a good conversation never hurt anyone

Yeah well, if you use Norton then naturally you'll only have bad memories, I'm sorry for your loss heh. AVG is good, I used the free edition when I used Windows and never had a problem. I'd like to suggest something to deal with the spyware but unfortunately I can't having never suffered from it myself. Same as the best contraception is keeping it in your pants, the best way to clean spyware is not get it in the first place. Don't use Internet Explorer, don't install Kazaa, pay attention to the sites you visit and read dialogs before you click Yes. Research software before you install it and I can't see you having any problems, I know I didn't.

Being cautious about the sites you visit and programs you install will beat any spyware scanner any day and it doesn't make a dent on your system resources, only on your brain so be careful AVG will be much lighter on your system than Norton ever was, go install it and come back in a week and tell us all how you feel then
 
Old 11-21-2005, 02:58 AM   #15
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OK. I never thought I would bust into Windows again Especially on a linux forum! Well Linux is still my favorite, bacause I can live with lack of games like DOOM3 or FEAR, because I don't play them Quake is enough for me There is no other main reason for me to go back to windows except this, games or programming(well that later).
 
  


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