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alan_ri 04-21-2011 04:59 PM

OK, I had to post this.
 
As you will probably notice this post will be made from a Winblows Vshitsta machine. So, a long story shortened, after a long long time I needed to delete a folder in Vshitsta and of course things weren't simple.

Thing didn't want to be deleted, so I used Google, I found a page and these were the instructions;

Quote:

1. Right click on folder (Context menu appears.)
2. Select "Properties" ("[Folder Name] Properties" dialog appears.)
3. Click the "Security" tab.
4. Click "Advanced" button (Advanced Security Settings for [Folder Name] appears.)
5. Click "Owner" tab.
6. Click "Edit" button.
7. Click new owner's name in "Change owner to" box.
8. Click box to check "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects".
9. Click "Apply" button. ("Changing ownership of..." progress message appears.)
10. Click "Yes" to acknowledge "Windows Security" warning.
11. Click OK to close topmost "Advanced Security Settings" dialog.
12. Click "Permissions" tab (first tab) on current "Advanced Security Settings" dialog.
13. Click "Edit" button.
14. Click to select the Administrator in the "Permission Entries" box.
15. NOTE: If "Administrator" appears more than once, select the one that has "Subfolders and files only" in the "Apply To" column.
16. Click Edit button. ("Permission Entry for [Folder Name]" dialog appears.)
17. Click to check "Apply these permissions to objects..." option.
18. Click to check ALL the boxes in the "Allow" column.
19. Click "OK" (Dialog box closes, return to "Advance Security Settings" dialog.)
20. Click to check "Include inheritable permissions..." option.
21. Click to check "Replace all existing inheritable permissions..." option.
22. Click "Apply" button. ("Windows Security" confirmation dialog appears.)
23. Click "Yes" to confirm that you wish to continue.
24. Watch progress indicator on the "Windows Security: Setting security information..." dialog.
25. When all security information has been applied, the progress indicator dialog will close automatically.
26. You are now at the "Advanced Security Settings for [Folder Name]" dialog box... the "Permissions" tab should be visible.
27. Click "OK" and the dialog box closes, revealing the previous dialog box.
28. Click "OK" and the dialog box closes, revealing the "Properties" dialog box.
29. Click "OK" and the "Properties" dialog box closes.
30. Return to Windows Explorer and delete the folder.
Did that........ and guess what, folder is still there. Original link is here.

Man, we who use Linux are really happy people.

Alexvader 04-21-2011 05:15 PM

Geezzz... by this trend, only a PhD in SW Engineering will be able to Create/Delete a folder in W8...

And then they say Slackware is complicated... LMAO...


++1 :)

silvyus_06 04-21-2011 05:16 PM

and the point is...?

SL00b 04-21-2011 05:17 PM

Wow. 30 steps to fail to accomplish what could be achieved in Linux by a single, simple command string. It's a fantastic platform.

Coresay 04-21-2011 05:17 PM

Dude, I was recently going through a similar routine to delete a file that I as Administrator don't even have access rights to even though it was my process that created it.

I'm seriously thinking about going on a crusade against Microsoft. How can a company that is so monstrous put out such crap software. The reality that Microsoft dominates the OS landscape is testament to everything that is wrong with the world.

SigTerm 04-21-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan_ri (Post 4331978)
So, a long story shortened, after a long long time I needed to delete a folder in Vshitsta and of course things weren't simple.

Those instructions are written for newbies.

A shorter version:
  • If the folder cannot be deleted due to the lack of security permissions, acquire full access permission for the folder.
  • If the folder cannot be deleted because it is being used by another program, locate and close/kill the program.
  • delete folder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvyus_06 (Post 4331990)
and the point is...?

The point is to fail to understand the problem, but still feel "superior" to windows users for absolutely no reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL00b (Post 4331991)
Wow. 30 steps to fail to accomplish what could be achieved in Linux by a single, simple command string.

The equivalent action on linux would be trying to delete root owned 0x700 perm folder from non-admin account.

Telengard 04-21-2011 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL00b (Post 4331991)
Wow. 30 steps to fail to accomplish what could be achieved in Linux by a single, simple command string. It's a fantastic platform.

Exactly what I was thinking. Windows required 30 steps (and even more unique mouse clicks) to do what is roughly equivalent to this:

Code:

# chown -R 'me:me' SOMEDIR
# chmod -R 'u+rw' SOMEDIR

:D

elliott678 04-21-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telengard (Post 4332012)
Exactly what I was thinking. Windows required 30 steps (and even more unique mouse clicks) to do what is roughly equivalent to this:

Code:

# chown -R 'me:me' SOMEDIR
# chmod -R 'u+rw' SOMEDIR

:D

Even easier if you just "rm -rf" as root.

alan_ri 04-21-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigTerm (Post 4332004)
Those instructions are written for newbies.

A shorter version:
  • If the folder cannot be deleted due to the lack of security permissions, acquire full access permission for the folder.

And what do you think I was trying to do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigTerm (Post 4332004)
  • If the folder cannot be deleted because it is being used by another program, locate and close/kill the program.
  • delete folder.

Actually, I did that too and I still couldn't delete it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigTerm (Post 4332004)
The point is to fail to understand the problem, but still feel "superior" to windows users for absolutely no reason.

Actually, the only problem here is you failing to understand me and YES I do feel superior to Winblows users, generally speaking that is.

Someone said what's the point? Well if you can read and if you can think, you should see the point.

SigTerm 04-21-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan_ri (Post 4332036)
YES I do feel superior to Winblows users

Well, this isn't my problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan_ri (Post 4332036)
Someone said what's the point? Well if you can read and if you can think, you should see the point.

There is no point. It is the same old crap - saying "They aren't using my OS, so I'm better, mwahaha" while seeing only one side of the coin. Anyway, discussing this will be pointless. Have a nice day.

Coresay 04-21-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigTerm (Post 4332004)
Those instructions are written for newbies.[*]If the folder cannot be deleted because it is being used by another program, locate and close/kill the program.

This is another one of my complaints. For 15 years we've been dealing with this! Why does Windows not tell us which damn process it is that has the file open???!!!!!! They recently bought the company that was thoughtful enough to provide us with a tool to do just that (HandleEx by SysInternals) yet they still don't incorporate that much needed functionality into the explorer!!! This is completely unacceptable. Microsoft is a technology black hole.

Edit: I suppose the reason they don't incorporate said functionality is because it is the Windows explorer.exe process itself that is the culprit 99/100 and they would first have to fix a bug or two that have been open for over a decade.

TobiSGD 04-21-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan_ri (Post 4332036)
YES I do feel superior to Winblows users

You do feel superior to a different person, just because he/she uses Windows?n Sorry I have to say that, but in my eyes that is a rather poor attitude.

Also, comparing the GUI approach to a problem with the CLI approach on a totally different system isn't very fair. It would be fairer to compare it with a CLI approach on Windows (for example using SUBINACL and deltree).

alan_ri 04-21-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigTerm (Post 4332043)
There is no point. It is the same old crap - saying "They aren't using my OS, so I'm better, mwahaha" while seeing only one side of the coin. Anyway, discussing this will be pointless. Have a nice day.

It sure ain't crap and I've seen both sides of the coin, actually I've seen it so well that I don't want to see the other side ever again.

Yes, discussing this would be pointless.
A nice day to you too!

@Coresay

What you said in post #11 is so very true.

@TobiSGD

You don't understand me, I was speaking about the people like a guy in the computer shop in my city, when I asked him does he know what is Live CD, he just stared at me and he works in a fscking computer shop where they have only fscking Winblows and is one of the biggest fscking computer shops in my city. And he and many others like him think they are smart.

I'm sick of fscking Winbloshitows. EOD.

Telengard 04-21-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4332050)
Also, comparing the GUI approach to a problem with the CLI approach on a totally different system isn't very fair.

That's true. I didn't know everyone was going to take this thread so seriously. I don't feel superior to Windows users, but I don't have to deal with many of them. I use Linux and my girlfriend has an iMac. There are Windows computers in the house, but they just kind of sit there powered down most of the time.

Coresay 04-22-2011 12:53 AM

Unix is a real OS. Windows isn't. Microsoft are fraudsters and scammers preying on the ignorant and the weak... like drug pushers. I can understand how the common home user could get suckered into using Windoz, but how can there still be so many enterprise users??? They have to get a clue, especially since we now have products like OpenOffice, Firefox and Thunderbird. Humanity can't progress with Microsoft. It must be voted off the boat.


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