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frankbell 09-12-2013 11:43 PM

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished
The web person at my girlfriend's work is going on vacation visiting India, so I volunteered to help if I could (it's a non-profit that accepts volunteers--my girlfriend edits the publications).

They were overjoyed and decided I could assist by inserting the hyperlinks in the new edition of the magazine, scheduled to go to print next month. I'm quite happy to do it; this kind of browny points never expire.

Today I found out that I get to do it on a Mac, using Adobe InDesign. The department's Mac is downstairs as I type.

Oh, joy.

I'm tempted to send it back with Slackware wallpaper, just because I can.

JWJones 09-13-2013 12:08 AM

It's not so bad, Frank. Just think of it as FreeBSD with a really pretty DE. Don't get me started about Adobe apps, though. Ugh. Let me know if you need any help with anything. And you should definitely send it back with Slackware wallpaper.

sundialsvcs 09-13-2013 09:11 AM

OS/X is Unix. Really, it's not that bad.

vmccord 09-13-2013 09:48 AM

It's not that the Mac OS is that bad, it's the implication inherent in its design that we, the users, are idiots.

JWJones 09-13-2013 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by vmccord (Post 5027111)'s the implication inherent in its design that we, the users, are idiots.

Yup, that's it, in a nutshell. I hate when software second-guesses me. At least Mac OSX has a bash shell.

frankbell 09-13-2013 09:26 PM

What vmcord said.

Also, I find all the jiggling and bouncing annoying. If I wanted jiggling and bouncing, I'd go to Vegas.

I found out how to turn it off in Enlightenment, but it's not my computer so I'm not going to try to turn that off. And I found myself yearning for workspaces. InDesign takes up a lot of screenspace too view a two-page layout, and switching back and forth between application windows takes some getting used to.

I needed to make some notes (questions to ask the person I'm assisting) and went looking for their text editor. I found the thing label "Edit Text" and it won't let me save in plain-text. It demands at least *.rtf. All those wasted electrons for "page 6 what is [some URL that I couldn't find in Firefox]."

I do hope to find some kind of terminal or command window so I and take a look inside without the file manager interface getting in the way, just because I'm curious that way.

JWJones 09-14-2013 12:46 AM

OK, a couple of things:

1) Mac OSX does have workspaces, look for "Spaces," which is in Applications>Utilities.
2) The default text editor for Mac OSX is called "TextEdit." It can save in either .rtf or plain text. Find it in Applications.
3) The console app is called "Terminal," also in Applications>Utilities.

Drag these three to the dock, maybe, and you're good to go.

Hangdog42 09-14-2013 09:08 AM

Since they won't let me use Linux at work, OS X is probably the next best thing.

- Get a copy of TextWrangler. Has decent context highlighting and beats the daylights out of TextEdit.
- Surprisingly, there is a nice collection of .nanorc files if you are a nano user.
- Hit the F8 key, you probably have 4 desktops by default.

JWJones 09-14-2013 10:23 AM

Yes, TextWrangler is great! As is it's big brother, BBEdit, but that one costs money.

frankbell 09-14-2013 08:57 PM

Thanks for all the hints.

I am not going to install stuff on this machine, as it's just a loaner for me to use to accomplish one task and one task only, but I look forward to exploring OSX as I do.

As for the text editor, I started the "Edit Text" tool from the Dock and it would not allow me to save as text. I will double-check to see the official name of this when I next use this machine.

JWJones 09-14-2013 09:33 PM

If it is in fact TextEdit, see screenshot for making it plain text. I believe the default is .rtf.

frankbell 09-14-2013 10:25 PM

Thanks! I'll check it out Monday (I'm committed for tomorrow).

JWJones 09-15-2013 11:46 AM

You betcha! Furthermore, if you want it to default to plain text, that can be set in the Preferences (see screenshot):

jamison20000e 09-15-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by vmccord (Post 5027111)
It's not that the Mac OS is that bad, it's the implication inherent in its design that we, the users, are idiots.

Like Ubuntu

Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5027091)
OS/X is Unix. Really, it's not that bad.

But a few hundred more for the, logo?\sheslaverep. instead of ɟǝɹɹɐɹıs' ʍıupoʍs ɐup ɯɐɔs

frankbell 09-16-2013 09:59 PM

Thank you all for your help. I now feel much more at home on this beast thanks to you.

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