BTW, all of that is pretty easy in Fedora if you're running core 3 and have either DLS or Cable. Try the following.

open up your terminal & log in as superuser. Type "su" then when prompted type your root password.
After that, cut and past the following:


rpm --import http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt


That will import the rpm key for Freshrpms.net. Next do one of the two depending on if you're running FC2 or FC3

for FC3

rpm -Uvh http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp....fr.noarch.rpm


for FC2


rpm -Uvh http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp....fr.noarch.rpm


that will set up your YUM to get packages from the Freshrpms database. The second actualy installs YUM on FC2, the prior just configures the pre-installed YUM on FC3 to use the database.

Now you're all set to install just about anything you could ever want without any dependency hassles.

to install Mplayer
yum -y install mplayer

to install Totem
yum -y install totem-xine

I think xmms is already installed on FC2 & FC3, but is crippled, so type
yum -y update xmms

I hope that helps. Trying to get FC2 or FC3 updated by hand is something of a pain in the rear-end, but freshrpms.net & YUM makes it rather easy.

NOTE: you will have to "copy link location" for the links since the board is cutting the URL in the display.

btw, I'd also recomend VideoLAN for getting internet radio

yum -y install videolan-client

you can try it out with this internet radio feed:

http://server-us.imrworldwide.com/cg.../play/kcmp.pls

GULO

wow, that was great, now my totem, xine, mplayer all work, kaffeine is having sound problems, when i try to use a stream, i have to use mozilla or firefox mplayer-plugin

kaffeine gives video, but really really sucky audio

Hi Raafi,

Glad I could help out a little. I usually find myself asking for help here more often than not!

Freshrpms.net is such a nice resource for Fedora! As a newbe, it would be nice if FC4 were to ship with yum pre-configured for it, but I guess you can't have everything. Your post about getting video to work in Fedora really sounded like a few of my early posts here where I was trying to get the dependency issues for Mplayer and Xine resolved. What a headache! I didn't know about how easy it was with YUM or Apt-Get until some kind soul pointed me in the right direction.

I'm really not familiar with Kaffeine, so I'm afraid I can't help much there. What sort of streams are you trying to play? VLC (see last post) may take care of that problem for you if its Internet Radio related. VLC has very good sound quality (CD quality) on my box so far.

http://www.kacst.edu.sa/en/stream/Al-Majd%20TV.asx

this link plays well in the mozilla or firefox browser

but using xine or kaffeine or totem, there is virtually no sound

mplayer is totally blank as well as xmms

Hi again Raafi,

OK, I reproduced your results on my FC3 box. I can't get the sound to work from that feed in Totem-Xine either. Kaffiene uses Xine for playback from what I can gather so it would make sense that if that stream wouldn't work in one, it wouldn't work in the other either.

I then tried your stream in VLC and it works like a charm. Give that a shot!

-Ross

sorry to have hijacked this thread

GULO, you da man

thanks, it worked flawlessly

this has shown the pluses and minuses of the linux world, gulo showed by attending the forum that we all can share and learn and benefit

but after being here, and a few other forums, i have never heard of VLC media player, if it wasnt for gulo, i would still be looking, searching and frustrated

it would be great if there were some central location for newbies to get the basics, each forum has its pluses and minuses, and many times, the information is incomplete or over technically explained

but overall, i have nothing but a postive experience with linux/fedora and once again

thanks a million gulo

Hey Raafi,

You are very welcome. I just started using VLC last week myself. I came across it in a Google search for a linux media player that would play aacPlus format audio. Seems to work pretty darn well though. Now I can listen to cool music at my workstation!

If you realize that Linux is NOT windows, and dont expect it to be Windows. You will enjoy it a lot more. Too many newbies say "oh well this doesnt work here but does in windows", your going in the wrong direction if your saying that. Linux is NOT windows, dont expect it to work like Windows. With power comes responsibility. Love your OS, nurture it, its becomes a kick ass tool that can certainly benefit your life outside your love of computers.

nix

i understand that, i truly dont mind learning every aspect of linux, and that will take time, but most of us do come from windows

click and play, thats all we know

and even in light of linux NOT being windows, things are not explained as they should be, if you (linux) wants people to come from windows, the very minimum they can do is make sure that instructions come with the package, either thru books, forums, or whatever

lets take yum for example, i installed yum, and thought that was it

everyone was saying, to install xine, just type "yum install xine"

but its not that simple, you have to get quite a few more things in place before you do that, and unless you happen to stumble across that one or two posts out of 15 forums that clearly explains it, then it builds frustration

the only reason i couldnt run back to windows when the going got tough is because i never had a legit windows disc, or linux would have lost me a long time ago

and my yum example is just one, out of the many programs i have had to install

gulo just tells me about this vlc program, i mean, is linux supposed to be detective training? if so, then someone should explain that at the beginning

i have two books, supposedly great books about fedora, but for the most part they are basically useless because the commands they offer dont work

and i am not even mentioning the whole blinking grub i had to work thru my first week..............that was truly a test of patience, so i bought a magazine that had a free mandrake 10.1, installed it, and for some reason, when i reinstalled fedora, it booted right up (i dont like mandrake, but its boot sequence resolved my grub problem)

i could go on, but the point is is that i am staying linux, i dont plan on ever going back to windows, and hopefully i will learn this thing and enjoy my computing

but lets not make it sound like its all the fault of the people who are trying to use linux

i understood it wasnt windows from day one, i just would like a good map, i can find my own way

gulo, have you figured out how to save the link?

i have to type full url to get it to play each time, i tried to save the link on my desktop, but thats not working and it seems VLC doesnt have a memory of "last played"

I've only started playing with VLC, but when I go to

file => open network stream

then click the "\/" (down arrow) on the RHS of the "Open" text area, I see the last few streams I've used. That may help short term at least. I'd also like to figure out how to bookmark streams!

i tried that, but it only saves the "history" until you close it down, then it wipes verything out

but considering that i couldnt even use that link at all, i will just get used to typing it

beggars cant be choosy

if i find out anything, i will post it here

how far are you from Brooklyn Park?

if you don't like Linux there is obviously something wrong with you, so naturally, fsck em.

Maybe fsck.msdos on these people?

harken
I use valknut, as a direct connect client, one of the best I've seen in linux, comparable to DC++.